So ebbs, after reading all that, I guess I fucked up. Damnit. Whatever will I do now?

give your bike to me and start over.


fyi... I started on a SV650 (for about 700 or so miles) my ZZR is my first bike though

They were for me. So fuck you and that article. I turned out alright.

I bet Ebbs didn't even read all that.

There is an exception to every rule. As a general rule of thumb and in a perfect world, every rider would start on a small bike and work their way up.

Now does that always happen? No. I do know of some riders who have started out on 600cc or 1000cc sportbikes and became great riders. Of course being a MSF instructor, I also deal with at least two or three students every weekend who come to the class with a brand new "GSXR1000ZX10RR" as their first bike and have already wrecked it. Sometimes more then once.

I always tell students, would you buy your 16 year old child a twin turbo Dodge Viper for a first car? No? Then why would you want a "GSXR1000ZX10RR" for your first bike?

I really wish we had a stacked riding system like they do overseas. Where you have to have a 250cc for a year before you can move to a 500cc. Then you have to have that for a year before you can move up. I think that would prevent alot of accidents.

Sure the riders maturity level has alot to do with how well they learn on a sportbike. But if a rider gets into a panic situation and accidently rolls on the throttle in a corner on a 500cc bike, the bike is going to react alot differently then a 1000cc bike in that same situation.

Someonce once told me a 600cc sportbike wants to kill you. A 1000cc sportbike will try to kill you.

Tiered licensing FTW :dthumb:

You are absolutely correct about the maturity of the rider.

And, what I tell people... traffic is already out there trying to inadvertently kill you. Why help them?

Didn't through the "War and Peace" version, but I agree, I think. But there are exceptions (and I'm one of them)

I'm with ya. We need tiered licensing.

Where do I sign the petition?

If only it was that easy.

Ok, i miss interpreteed the thread then you miss interpreted me! I concider a 250 or 500 to still be a sport bike and was saying to start there rather than on a cruzier, its an argument ive had with many who try to say learn on a cruiser 1st! I apologize sir! It was the end of my shift and I was just trying to knock out a few last posts! should have read more of that long ass post!