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RACER X 12-18-2008 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 2up (Post 129827)
That is a standard across the board in automotive.

and they wonder why they're going belly up.

Papa_Complex 12-18-2008 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 129828)
and they wonder why they're going belly up.

Not an issue. Sales are down in that period, so more stock isn't needed. People would likely be taking some vacation time anyway, so the workforce would be depleted. The transport systems are overloaded, so their "just in time" manufacturing is taxed.

I've worked for several companies, in the past, that closed between Christmas and New Years.

RACER X 12-18-2008 01:43 PM

i've never worked for a co. that shut down for the holidays (for 2-3 weeks) let alone pay + x weeks of vac. on top of that.

ducati_atx 12-18-2008 01:43 PM

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Just what do you think will happen if they all close?

Do you think that'll cost less than a bailout loan?
Yup. I dont believe the bailout on the auto industry will ever end.

I also believe that those jobs will be replaced by people working in the states for Toyota, Honda, etc at wages/benefits more inline with industry standards and proportional to their experience/education. As demand grows, so will the other automakers who are actually modern and progressive not thinking what it was like 50 years ago. "Back in my day sonny...."

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Papa_Complex 12-18-2008 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 129835)
i've never worked for a co. that shut down for the holidays (for 2-3 weeks) let alone pay + x weeks of vac. on top of that.

Pick your jobs better then redflip

Papa_Complex 12-18-2008 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ducati_atx (Post 129836)
Yup. I dont believe the bailout on the auto industry will ever end.

I also believe that those jobs will be replaced by people working in the states for Toyota, Honda, etc at wages/benefits more inline with industry standards and proportional to their experience/education. As demand grows, so will the other automakers who are actually modern and progressive not thinking what it was like 50 years ago. "Back in my day sonny...."

And in the meanwhile people default on mortgages, auto loans, etc. and the economy takes a major dump, possibly to Great Depression levels.

Rsv1000R 12-18-2008 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ducati_atx (Post 129836)
Yup. I dont believe the bailout on the auto industry will ever end.

I also believe that those jobs will be replaced by people working in the states for Toyota, Honda, etc at wages/benefits more inline with industry standards and proportional to their experience/education. As demand grows, so will the other automakers who are actually modern and progressive not thinking what it was like 50 years ago. "Back in my day sonny...."

Have you looked at Toyota and Honda's sales figures the last couple months?

ducati_atx 12-18-2008 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 129839)
And in the meanwhile people default on mortgages, auto loans, etc. and the economy takes a major dump, possibly to Great Depression levels.

1M jobs (as proclaimed by the auto industry) vs a country with 300M+ people? Not the end of the world.

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Originally Posted by Rsv1000R (Post 129840)
Have you looked at Toyota and Honda's sales figures the last couple months?

Have you seen that they arent asking for bailouts? ;)

Rsv1000R 12-18-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 129835)
i've never worked for a co. that shut down for the holidays (for 2-3 weeks) let alone pay + x weeks of vac. on top of that.

A lot of our customers close down over the holiday, and if we don't have billable work, we're suppose to take the time off, you can take vac and get paid, or not and don't.

2up 12-18-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 129835)
i've never worked for a co. that shut down for the holidays (for 2-3 weeks) let alone pay + x weeks of vac. on top of that.

I don't know for sure how the big 3 or other companies work it out, but the company I worked for figured it in as part of your total compensation package. :shrug: I have rarely worked in an industry where there was jack shit to do during that period of time. As PC pointed out, a lot of people are on vaca anyway.


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