And I'm alright with that. I might not need a Ferrari to go get coffee, doesn't mean I still wouldn't like it.

Grats on the new KX man. And dont listen to anyone here. You know damn well you wont be happy unless you go with the biggest and baddest. :p

I know I told him over PM.

But it is what it is.

Dude. We grew up in the countryside. We both have a ton of experience in dirt (mostly 2 strokes). You guys make it sound like he doesnt know what he's getting into. He asked for advice on 2 different bikes, not advice on how many CC's he should get.

I wouldnt buy anything less than a 450f for dirt either. And yes, I have ridden them on multiple occasions.

Ok that's great. Have fun with it, it's not my life so I don't care lol.

I just simply stated if you have 0 experience, it will be too much.

And he's stated, in this thread already, that he has more than zero experience. Much more.

We grew up in a town where its as easy to get around with a dirtbike as it is with a car. When city kids were riding bicycles, we were riding dirtbikes, quads, and sleds. Off road is nothing new to him or I. I dunno why thats so hard for you guys to understand. I dunno where you get this zero experience idea.

And after riding my friend Cliffords yz450f. i'd have to say its pretty docile compared to 250 and 500 2-strokes.

I was thinking about stretching and lowering it. Also thought about polishing the expansion chamber after I rejet the carb and set the gap on the points.

Dont forget the chrome and tassles.

Alright, I'm done here.

Thats fine. You still never answered the original question though.

I dont want you to take this the wrong way, because we've been friends here and cf for a long time, but how can you judge what other people should ride when you have never even ridden with them?

If there was a reason behind your opinions, i'd put a little more stock in them. But your talking like your the only person here who rides dirt, and acting like he couldnt possibly handle a 450, when you have no idea what his riding skills are in the first place.

I mean seriously, you've been riding dirt for what, 5 years? We've been doing it since we were 5 years old. We know the difference between a trail and dirt bike, and where each excels. We arent the idiots you seem to be trying to make us out to be.