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pauldun170 01-30-2010 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 327532)
Shit is ugly...

Which one?
you mean the bike?

Rangerscott 01-30-2010 02:36 AM

I also dont get the, "honda builds what they want." Isnt that will all bike companies. I've never read that, "Suzuki added a turbo to their 1000cc bike cause thats what consumers wanted."

Homeslice 01-30-2010 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rangerscott (Post 327540)
I also dont get the, "honda builds what they want." Isnt that will all bike companies. I've never read that, "Suzuki added a turbo to their 1000cc bike cause thats what consumers wanted."

Ever heard of focus groups? Surveys? Manufacturer personnel going out and interacting with dealership personnel, or with riders at seminars, trackdays, etc. There's a wide variety of ways they can learn what the consumer wants. Some do it better than others.

t-homo 01-30-2010 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 327548)
Ever heard of focus groups? Surveys? Manufacturer personnel going out and interacting with dealership personnel, or with riders at seminars, trackdays, etc. There's a wide variety of ways they can learn what the consumer wants. Some do it better than others.

Fuck, I agree. I don't care who you are, Honda dropped the ball on this one. Had they done this bike right, it would have been one of the highest selling bikes this year. People have been wanting a liter VFR for years and it would have sold like crazy.

tommymac 01-30-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by t-rock (Post 327589)
Fuck, I agree. I don't care who you are, Honda dropped the ball on this one. Had they done this bike right, it would have been one of the highest selling bikes this year. People have been wanting a liter VFR for years and it would have sold like crazy.

Could be like ducati when they put out the 999 and that flopped in the looks dept and want back to the 916 style.

smileyman 01-30-2010 12:02 PM

Honda has always stressed design. Always searching for breakthroughs, always seeking innovation. They spend R&D money on robots for Chrissakes.
Everyone wanted a sporty new VFR that was ergonomically sane, some really hoped for a V5. Honda wanted to try new innovations to find the future of 2 wheel transportation...See what we get?

MILK 01-30-2010 03:38 PM

Thank goodness my 04 only has 36,000 miles on her!!

smileyman 01-30-2010 04:34 PM

Perhaps, and I am just thinking aloud here, maybe Honda saw diminishing returns in the Goldwing demographic and were reaching out to the surviving and maturing sportbike crowd?

tommymac 01-30-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman (Post 327692)
Perhaps, and I am just thinking aloud here, maybe Honda saw diminishing returns in the Goldwing demographic and were reaching out to the surviving and maturing sportbike crowd?

Interesting point, I just dont know if the goldwing demographic would be shrinking. I would think most of them are rather succesful people to afford those bikes and to take all the time off to log the miles many do on them.

Homeslice 01-30-2010 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman (Post 327692)
Perhaps, and I am just thinking aloud here, maybe Honda saw diminishing returns in the Goldwing demographic and were reaching out to the surviving and maturing sportbike crowd?

:?:

If anything, the previous VFR had a more sportbike-like appearance than this new one.


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