It's either that, or it could be used to fund track days for people who've never been to one, as a way to encourage them to take it off the streets. A couple of trackday org's are doing that on the SoCal board.

http://www.socalmoto.org/forum/showthread.php?t=14809

http://www.socalmoto.org/forum/showthread.php?t=14814

I don't want to put my money toward that. Track days aren't the answer. I like riding in the mountains. Bill liked riding in the mountains. Making this wild claim that we need people off the mountains is utterly retarded. People want to do what they enjoy.

It's like Bill's diet. He put in all that effort to keep himself clean and healthy and not "cheat" and enjoy good bad for you meals. He could of treated himself a lot more had he had known he would never make it to an age where it would matter.

People can ride all day every day in the mountains and then get shot or killed crossing the street or some other stupid shit.

The charity the parents posted is a good one. It WILL save people. A lame track day that doesn't even have Bill's name attached to it is meaningless.

I have no problem at all with what you've said. I ride street too, and in fact I remember a couple times when I defended Bill when he would talk about street riding. On some boards there are quite a few safety nazis who can be quite annoying.......25-30 year olds who act like they're 50 for some reason. Bill was the opposite, he acted/posted younger than he was, and I liked that about him.

Ultimately it is up to each person's skill and self-control to determine whether they're safe on the streets. The thing is, a lot (or even most) riders lack that self-discipline. And a lot of them make the assumption that trackdays are only for racers, or that they're intimidating, or that they're not willing to plunk down the money for gear without knowing whether they'll enjoy it, etc.

That other site has a higher % of track riders, so it's only natural they would put together a benefit like that. Whether it will actually benefit anyone's life, who knows, but I have no problem with either approach.

I'd like to donate the money where his parents wanted it to go. They are the ones burying their son so I think their wishes are top priority.

I own a Trackday company, and I know they aren't the answer....

I'm in if we go toward his parents' charity as requested. I can even manage it.

+1

You ride street too. LOL

Just got back from the service here in CA. Had the chance to meet some of family and his coworkers. He was the 7th of 8 kids. He was giving up a kidney for a friend of his. His coworkers said they have no idea how they're ever going to replace him. A couple of his coworkers flew in from Japan on their own dime to pay their respects. He was wearing a shirt and tie and his riding gloves. His mother was a religious person and told us to go to church more often :) His family donated his organs, so his bones will provide bone grafts for 150 people, his heart will help a heart attack victim, his veins will help 6 people.

I was worried about explaining the relationship we had. I told her that we've been talking to him every day for the past 10 years but that most of us hadn't met him in person. His mom got it right away, she totally understood.

I'm not donating to a forum's branding effort. None of them were at the service today anyways, just the three of us from what we saw.

Thank you.

And, thank you Bill.

Plus won.

Thanks for the info Sean.