Whale Wars, anybody watch
i watch it from time to time, thought the peeps had a good "cause" but were just stupid people.
but then the last episode they showed a whale getting speared, then shot/killed, then butchered up......... they killed 3-4 in a few hours man, that was eye opening. and i knew the process but to watch it happen. not as bad as the dude's beating the baby seals w/ bats. but they did kill a lil whale.....sad. |
Um, what did you think they did with the whales?
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My son watches every episode so I've seen a few of them. I don't think I'd risk my life for a whale.
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I watch it and think it's hilarious.
I think the people are stupid and probably deserve to have their boat sunk for ramming ships. If you want to play, you have to be willing to pay. I could care less about the whales or whaling. I would slaughter an animal, bleed it, cut it up into edible portions, cook it, and then eat it if butcher shops didn't do it for me. The only time I wouldn't want hunting is if you were doing it to the point of extinction. Japan isn't doing that, they are specifically targeting a species that isn't on the verge of extinction and they also quota hunt so the population isn't effected, but facts ruin the point of the show. Their lethal sampling of whales also helps the fish stock in the ocean. |
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I'll give you whales, but they're definitely fucking up the shark population. Shark fins are NOT going to make your little asian dicks bigger. Just keep making lots of money so you don't have to worry about it.. (Japanese, not you trip). |
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Quota at 850, they are only getting a little over 500 with a population of over 500000. |
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As far as how sad it is to see a whale butchered... well, I doubt that it's any more gruesome than the fate of the cow that sacrificed his life so I could eat at Checkers a minute ago.:lol: Personally, I'd love to see a bunch of kooks go jump in the water to stop people from hunting sharks! |
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:lol: Yea, I've only watched a few episodes but I think they ran off the only guy that had any experience (old 1st mate?) because he wasn't a tree hugging, pc, cock sucker like the rest of them.:lol: |
Meh. The commercials I've seen for it are enough to keep me from watching.
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i watch it and think its pretty damn funny, they have no sea skills what so ever
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I thought the Japanese had been breaking some sort of international treaty.....am I wrong?
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They harvest whales for "scientific" purposes, and then sell the meat. |
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Perhaps, but then I'm no expert :lol: |
If they were smart they'd find a better way to sabotage the ships.
All ships need cooling water for its equipment. All sea water suction occurs from a few common areas. If they could drop something in the water that would sink a bit and be sucked up, they may be onto something.. |
Also forgot to mention that if anything is tangled in your prop, its a good idea to remove it ASAP.
Now, if some ropes with heavy weights got wrapped around it, the hull would take a beating and be potentially compromised. |
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Now, read it all with sarcasm brackets. :wink: |
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I notice you put quotes around scientific --- If it's fake research, then it's just whaling, right? |
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i dont support terrorism in my house.
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I could come up with ideas all day...
Ram the prop with some kind of extension.. That could knock the stern seals loose and flood em. 2 small craft with a chain between em. Weight in the middle of the chain. Come up behind and drag it until you catch the prop or a-frame and let it go... Boats are so vulnerable, anybody with half a brain could sabotage one. |
I don't support a needless slaughter of animals.
If you do any research on whale meat, everything leads to most of it going to waste. And the hunt is essentially a traditional thing that keeps some fisherman employed. Somewhat like our Canadian seal hunt.. |
i hear zodiacs full of tnt work well too :rolleyes:
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Hey I know, why don't we just kill all those people engaged in legal activities because we don't like it. This reminds me of the nut jobs that spiked a bunch of trees so loggers would get injured if they cut them down or the people who oil corners at the Gap because they don't like us speeding down 129.
The Japanese whalers have found a "loophole" in the law. Get together and change the law but to attack and potentially injure or even kill these sailors who are just trying to make a living... IDK maybe this is another case where I'm stupid/crazy/ an idiot/ etc but I don't get it. This would be like someone against deer hunting setting up booby traps on state land. |
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Werd, what slice said.
Besides, the greeners can play the same game. They "lost" 6 or 7 chains with buoys attached at appropriate lengths.. I'm not advocating hurting anybody. I'm saying make it so it costs them more money in repairs than they make from "research". |
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I feel the same way as tigger, I may not condone whaling, but they should be able to shoot those trying to sabotage their ships, in self defense... If somebody was trying to sink my ship (if I had one), i'd think that was attempted murder. |
Except you're not supposed to have weapons in international waters...
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Foot in mouth.. Was thinkign of the Atlantic right whale, not minke..
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I checked cuz i wanted to see the damage they did, lol. |
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Ha the gun lovers will love this one... so that's why pirates have such easy pickings, since only the criminals have weapons. Well, these are Japanese people we're talking about, I'm sure they could whip up something to combat these people. A slingshot, a giant robot, idk something! Shit, how are they spearing the whales/ they should use that!:lol: |
the spike was always meant to fuck people up at the sawmill. and i've heard alot more than 1 30 year old story from the loggers up in forks, WA when i was hanging up there
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http://www.mast-yacht.com/legaldocs/firearms.html |
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I've heard stories of monsters that live in the seas and eat ships, and ones that hide under beds and eat kids too.. |
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Whoah...
The whaling restrictions are only in effect on countries who are part of the IWC. so, if Japan is not a member, they can hunt all they like. Seems like Norway still does it. |
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I wasnt debating how it was done, just that barely anyone gets hurt from it, and there are no pictures of the injuries online :( |
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As to your 2nd sentence, how are they satisfying the law? Doesn't look like they're obeying the law to me. Unless as you suggested, they never signed the treaty......in which case it's a moot point :shrug: Besides, "international law" is never really enforced anyway. :lol: |
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found this while i was looking around:
Canada Nowadays, Canadian whaling is carried out by various Inuit groups around the country in small numbers and is managed by the Fisheries and Oceans Canada. The meat obtained from this whaling is commercially sold through shops and supermarkets. This meat is typically not available in southern metropolitan centers such as Vancouver, Toronto, or Montreal but is more available in northern communities where whale meat is a component of the traditional diet. There is considerable consternation amongst whale hunters and conservationists about the hunt. The Whale and Dolphin Conservation Society says "Canada has pursued a policy of marine mammal management which appears to be more to do with political expediency rather than conservation." Canada left the IWC in 1982 and as such is not bound by the moratorium on whaling. |
The wikipedia is strong in this one. :lol:
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Canada must be too cold for the Whale Warriors lol
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Our whaling literally occurs in a boat big enoug for 4 or 5 people. And the carcass is floated beside the dinghy until it can be hauled ashore.
Also, our guys are allowed so many strikes. If they're allowed 3 strikes, and they hit a whale and it dives, there goes a strike. You now have 2 more... |
OK-ENOUGH of the "whale wars". Do you realize that EVERY Naval vessel out there throws massive quantities of BS overboard ? Where's the outrage about that? A single Aircraft carrier has over 5000 assholes on it wasting all sorts of BS.As soon as you reach 13 miles of the coast-dump everything overboard. I spent 13 years in the USN and am ashamed at all the harmful stuff we dumped over the side.
America needs to clean up its act before we can go after others. |
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Funny you should mention what the navy does.
We treat all of our sewage before it is dumped, regardless of where we are in coastal waters. We also melt down and store all plastic. We pulp all paper and send it over the side. And all glass and metal are broken down into tiny pieces using a shredder before we put it in the ocean. And food and such is ground up and used to feed the fishes. We actually use your navy as an example of what not to do. We can technically dump straight oil over the side if its an operational requirement. But, I think we'd be pretty much a ball of flames before that would happen. |
Slice, the boats are not too small for harpoons. But, they're the hand held kind.
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If you've ever seen the Mexican oil field, you wouldn't ever bitch about polution anywhere. Ever.
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Wow. With our laws. I'd tell the EO to go fuck himself before I would put a drop of wd 40 into the water.
We're trained in the proper handling and disposal of hazardous waste before we evern set foot on board. If you knowingly release ods or pol you can be fined up to a million dollars. |
Oh, true story.
We lost 200 litres of distillate over the side. It was due to a faulty valve. The upper deck engineer almost went to jail over it. 20000 gallons? You'd pick up a spill that size from satellite. |
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They live in northern canada. Summer is a sunshower in July, and theyve been living that way for a few hundred years. Brave, tough, uneducated natives.
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Slice.. Fuel is run through coalescers. It seperates the water from the fuel.
It has to be run through these coalescers before it is allowed to be run in the engines. So, if they have to run it through a water seperator before it goes to where it needs to be. Why dump it? And, if water got into your JP5, (jet propellant 5) you have some serious issues. Like a compromised tank.. I could go on all day on why fuel mixed with water wouldn't be dumped. But, he may have just had a dumb ass co.. |
Also, what did you guys do with the rest of your fuel?
There is a lot of condensation in fuel tanks. Which is why we run them through water seperators. Did you dump distillate too? |
If this ship was going to be refueled by another boat and they needed the room, then yeah I could understand dumping it, but otherwise..........
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But! Fuel and water don't mix.
And fuel is seperated before it gets to the service tanks. So, unless it was detected in the fueling, which they stop immediately when they take fuel samples, how could water and fuel emulsify before it was caught? |
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Question, isn't JP5 basically hi grade kerosene? Fuck the environment, that was a lot of loot!!! Man, if you had called me I would have tried to come get that shit somehow!!!:lol: |
Jp 5 is a fuel with a lower flash point than diesel.
We can mix it into our diesel, but we can't mix diesel in with it. Its basically clean jet fuel. It has tighter restrictions than regular fuel. We run our through the filters for 4 hours every single day, to ensure our birds don't fall out of the sky. |
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I can't stand the show, but mainly because of the shitty ass captain. He always plays it so it's not his fault if shit goes wrong. For example people wanted to do some weird mission but the people who were going to do the mission were worried about it. The captain basically said "Decide yourselves" but then brow beat them into doing it. Your a fucking captain, you make the god damn call. For the rest of the crew. Nothing but a bunch of whiney ass rich kids who are wanting to score some sweet sweet hippy bush poontang.. Whales suck anyways. Save dolphins because dolphins are much cooler and smarter than whales. |
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I'm sure you all remember, my ride report on the crazy old lady who hit one of my guys with a pitch fork because she was tired of people riding down her road. |
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Im not for killing whales at all....
I am for killing wierdo environmentalists though. If I could get a license for them, i'd use the whalers as bait to catch me a crazy. |
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Want to see how smart they are??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3xmqbNsRSk |
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About 6 years ago I went whale watching off of Vancouver island.
We lucked into a super pod. There must have been 50 orca. We just shit off the boat and drifted while they swam around us. Beyond a shadow of a doubt, the coolest thing I have ever experienced. Even got to see a whale boner! :lol: the tour guide says, "kinda humbling eh guys?" I told him, speak for yourself. And to top it all off, while we're zooming back in a 400hp rhib, 4 cf 18s fly over us in formation. By far, one of the coolest days in my life! |
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wanted to punch the old guy about the seal though |
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Well, there's always the annual "Fecalphiliacs Jamboree"... |
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So today I have been feeling like shit, and havn't left the house all day.
Anyway, I've been watching a whale wars marathon, and damn thses guys are a bunch of untrained hooligans running around on the ocean. I guess they have been at this for 25 years (?), and I'm surprised that nobody has died yet. I'm no sailor so I really have nothing to base my thoughts on except that some of the shit they are doing is just nuts. |
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