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logan1 03-01-2008 04:32 PM

Top 5 Mods for motorcycles
 
What in you opinion are the top five performance modifications for a motorcycle that are well worth the time and money that goes into doing em?

These are mods that are irrespective for make/model of motorcycle.

For EXAMPLE:

(1) Rider Training/ Trackdays
(2) Tires
(3) Suspension
(4) Gearing
(5) Brake Pads/Lines

NONE_too_SOFT 03-01-2008 04:37 PM

training is a given, and the bar none BEST thing to improve a ride.

but strictly performance upgrades to the machine.

Tires
Brakes
Suspension
Exaust/Mapping
Filters

Trip 03-01-2008 04:37 PM

Honestly, your list is my list as well.


(1) Rider Training/ Trackdays
(2) Tires
(3) Suspension
(4) Gearing
(5) Brake Pads/Lines

vabarber2 03-01-2008 06:16 PM

1 Training & Practice (ie track days)
2 Tires
3 Suspension (but I personaly just tune the stock)
4 Gearing
5 Full Pipe & Filter w/ map of course! (Breath in and blow out have to go together!)

jtemple 03-01-2008 06:19 PM

Practice
Tires
Stomp Grip
Tank Pad
Battery Tender (for those of us that park it in the winter)

That's all I did to mine. :dthumb:

NONE_too_SOFT 03-01-2008 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vabarber2 (Post 4988)
1 Stretched swingarm
2 crash cage
3 neons
4 chrome
5 huge rear tire

You've gotta be kidding me

OneSickPsycho 03-01-2008 11:50 PM

Money is no object?

1) Tires
2) CF wheels
3) Stainless lines (unless you ride a Buell which comes with them stock ::eatatthey:)
4) Suspension
5) Exhaust


Money is an object?

1) No Fear stickers
2) Tire paint pen
3) Sparkly Gixxer hand grips
4) Hand polished frame
5) Fur

Mr Lefty 03-01-2008 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NONE_too_SOFT (Post 4994)
You've gotta be kidding me

wadda expect from a renowned busa lover

OTB 03-02-2008 04:38 PM

1. Diet I lost 50 lbs since July; the bike rides, handles, accelerates and stops so much better without the extra avoirdupois. Looked in the mirror one day and asked myself "Self, what good is an ultralight bike if it's being ridden by a manatee?" :idk: Cost: saved me money on groceries.....

NeonspeedRT 03-02-2008 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 4959)
Honestly, your list is my list as well.


(1) Rider Training/ Trackdays
(2) Tires
(3) Suspension
(4) Gearing
(5) Brake Pads/Lines


Thats about the ideal list for top 5 right there.

Mr Lefty 03-02-2008 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTB (Post 5676)
1. Diet I lost 50 lbs since July; the bike rides, handles, accelerates and stops so much better without the extra avoirdupois. Looked in the mirror one day and asked myself "Self, what good is an ultralight bike if it's being ridden by a manatee?" :idk: Cost: saved me money on groceries.....

Good word! :lol:

azoomm 03-02-2008 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeonspeedRT (Post 5677)
Thats about the ideal list for top 5 right there.

Except I'd change the order...

Training / MSF / Trackdays
Brakes (because even when you blow a tire, you have to stop)
Tires (because you only have two...)
Suspension (better handling = better handling)
Gearing

logan1 03-02-2008 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTB (Post 5676)
1. Diet I lost 50 lbs since July; the bike rides, handles, accelerates and stops so much better without the extra avoirdupois. Looked in the mirror one day and asked myself "Self, what good is an ultralight bike if it's being ridden by a manatee?" :idk: Cost: saved me money on groceries.....

Best post on this forum so far.....:rockout::pat:

jtemple 03-02-2008 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTB (Post 5676)
1. Diet I lost 50 lbs since July; the bike rides, handles, accelerates and stops so much better without the extra avoirdupois. Looked in the mirror one day and asked myself "Self, what good is an ultralight bike if it's being ridden by a manatee?" :idk: Cost: saved me money on groceries.....

That's a good one. I lost 110+ lbs a while back and am loving every minute of it!

Trip 03-02-2008 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtemple (Post 5943)
That's a good one. I lost 110+ lbs a while back and am loving every minute of it!

damn man, good job on that one.

DLIT 03-03-2008 06:53 AM

With seat time as a given...

Tires next. Once you have good tires, you have a solid base to work with everything else.

Suspension. Try getting it tuned to your weight first. You might be surprised.

Brake pads/lines. It's amazing how good adding good pads and lines helps. No more brake fade.

Exhaust/power commander. Have your bike dyno-tuned once you get the full system and power commander combo.

Gearing. This one last because it takes time to learn your bike. Gearing gives you the advantage of quicker acceleration, but you go through gears faster and less top end. It all depends on what tracks you ride. If they have short straights, gearing should help you out. Long straights, you'll get passed by all the guys you may have passed before the beginning of the straight. I'm still content with stock gearing on my bike.

05svr650 03-04-2008 07:45 AM

Training
Suspension
Tires
Brakes
Power Management

Most important should be learn what you ride and where you ride. I rode the hell outta my stock SV and put a lot of guys to shame on "real" sport bikes up at the Dragon. That's because I know what my bike is capable of and I know how far I can push it. I also have the rode memorized to where I can replay each run back in my head. Sometimes I'll spend all day just riding back and forth on a 2 mile section of rode, just so I can maximize my bikes potential in that section.

It's not what you ride, but how you ride it.

fnfalman 03-04-2008 08:58 PM

1. Training/Track Days
2. Wheels
3. Tires
4. Suspension
5. Exhaust/fuel mapping

I think that brakes can only be slightly improved because most factory brakes on sport bikes are awesome.

The wheels make for marked performance in acceleration, deceleration and maneuverability.

Tires...they speak for themselves.

Suspension set-up and/or replacement parts are a great way to aid overall performance of the bike.

Exhaust and fuel mapping makes for a smooth throttle response that's critical for fast riding. Not to mention great for lane splitting too. A herky-jerky throttle makes for some interesting rides during lane splitting.:panic:

And yes, losing lots of weights really help!!! I'm looking to drop another twenty pounds. I've lost 17-pounds and that really made a big difference. It's like dropping another set of stock exhaust and catalytic converter.:whistle:

NONE_too_SOFT 03-04-2008 08:59 PM

wheels really that much a factor in performance? whats your logic?

OneSickPsycho 03-04-2008 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NONE_too_SOFT (Post 8057)
wheels really that much a factor in performance? whats your logic?

Reduction in rotational mass and unsprung weight... improves braking and accelleration due to the brakes and engine not having to work as hard... (sorta like if you put 20's on your car and don't change the brakes your car is harder to get going and harder to stop)... Not having all that weight rotating also greatly reduces gyroscopic forces improving turn-in and general manuverability... Unsprung weight allows the suspension to work better...

ceo012384 03-05-2008 01:04 AM

1. Rider training / track days
2. Tires
3. Suspension
4. Rider fitness
5. Brakes

Mr Lefty 03-05-2008 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 8195)
Reduction in rotational mass and unsprung weight... improves braking and accelleration due to the brakes and engine not having to work as hard... (sorta like if you put 20's on your car and don't change the brakes your car is harder to get going and harder to stop)... Not having all that weight rotating also greatly reduces gyroscopic forces improving turn-in and general manuverability... Unsprung weight allows the suspension to work better...

true... but the diffrence between the stock and light weight wheels gonna be that big a diffrence? there's no doubt that there is a diffrence... but to rank it #2 seems kinda high IMO...

I think that's what NtS was trying to say too...

DLIT 03-05-2008 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebbs15 (Post 8353)
true... but the diffrence between the stock and light weight wheels gonna be that big a diffrence? there's no doubt that there is a diffrence... but to rank it #2 seems kinda high IMO...

I think that's what NtS was trying to say too...

Good point. To add $1200 a peice wheels isn't that high of a priority. Maybe if you have the extra cash and maybe if you're a competitive racer that needs any edge they can get. But not for your everyday track day rider. I don't think I'll ever buy aftermarket wheels.

OneSickPsycho 03-05-2008 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebbs15 (Post 8353)
true... but the diffrence between the stock and light weight wheels gonna be that big a diffrence? there's no doubt that there is a diffrence... but to rank it #2 seems kinda high IMO...

I think that's what NtS was trying to say too...

Everything I've read... Yes, it will make a big difference...

DLIT 03-05-2008 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 8483)
Everything I've read... Yes, it will make a big difference...

I think it would too.

dReWpY 03-05-2008 09:43 AM

but a 1200 dollar differance? once the basics of exhuast, engine maps, wheels suspenstion, rider training, and the creature comforts are done then i would consider it

DLIT 03-05-2008 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewpy (Post 8544)
but a 1200 dollar differance? once the basics of exhuast, engine maps, wheels suspenstion, rider training, and the creature comforts are done then i would consider it

Exactly. Unless I'm running at the head of the pack during RACES, I might consider it, but won't because I'm just a track day whore.

Mr Lefty 03-05-2008 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 8483)
Everything I've read... Yes, it will make a big difference...

see below
Quote:

Originally Posted by drewpy (Post 8544)
but a 1200 dollar differance? once the basics of exhuast, engine maps, wheels suspenstion, rider training, and the creature comforts are done then i would consider it

exactly... I don't doubt it's a noticeable diffrence but I meant it's kinda steep price for what you get when you can do so much other stuff first that combined will make just as much difference if not more for less $

shit Suspension to me would be #1 and far above wheels interms of value... just setting a stock suspension right will make a HUGE difference

OneSickPsycho 03-05-2008 09:20 PM

From what I've read it's a VERY noticeable and dramatic difference... I'd like someone who's actually rocked some CF's to chime in...

Mr Lefty 03-05-2008 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 9153)
From what I've read it's a VERY noticeable and dramatic difference... I'd like someone who's actually rocked some CF's to chime in...

where's azoomm? didn't she say she had them in her mod list?

OneSickPsycho 03-05-2008 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebbs15 (Post 9157)
where's azoomm? didn't she say she had them in her mod list?

I dunno, but I'd definitely bury her in my back yard...

http://www.motorcycle-articles.com/A...Difference/150

Mr Lefty 03-05-2008 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 9163)
I dunno, but I'd definitely bury her in my back yard...

http://www.motorcycle-articles.com/A...Difference/150

I still think suspension should be above it... :2cents:

but yeah... I looked into them a while back when I had an extra $2200 laying around... but 1. they don't make them for my bike... and 2. not worth it when I can't ride the bike more than 30% of it's ability :lol:

OneSickPsycho 03-05-2008 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebbs15 (Post 9166)
I still think suspension should be above it... :2cents:

but yeah... I looked into them a while back when I had an extra $2200 laying around... but 1. they don't make them for my bike... and 2. not worth it when I can't ride the bike more than 30% of it's ability :lol:

Possibly, but the fact that the lighter wheels allow your suspension to work better... you may get more than one bird with a single stone if you switch wheels...

Mr Lefty 03-05-2008 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 9170)
Possibly, but the fact that the lighter wheels allow your suspension to work better... you may get more than one bird with a single stone if you switch wheels...

humm... I smell what your step'n in...

humm... azoomm? we're waiting! :lol:

marko138 03-07-2008 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 8195)
Reduction in rotational mass and unsprung weight... improves braking and accelleration due to the brakes and engine not having to work as hard... (sorta like if you put 20's on your car and don't change the brakes your car is harder to get going and harder to stop)... Not having all that weight rotating also greatly reduces gyroscopic forces improving turn-in and general manuverability... Unsprung weight allows the suspension to work better...

Holy shit. A motorcycle related post from the sick one.

Mr Lefty 03-08-2008 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 10813)
Holy shit. A motorcycle related post from the sick one.

yeah I looked... the planets were aligned last night...


I wonder if Hell froze over too:idk:

OneSickPsycho 03-08-2008 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 10813)
Holy shit. A motorcycle related post from the sick one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebbs15 (Post 11325)
yeah I looked... the planets were aligned last night...
I wonder if Hell froze over too:idk:

Most of the time all I have to add is +1 cause everyone's already answered the question... Glad I could participate.

Mr Lefty 03-08-2008 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 11331)
Most of the time all I have to add is +1 cause everyone's already answered the question... Glad I could participate.

yeah it's nice for once to not here you say your gay... :lol:

OneSickPsycho 03-08-2008 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebbs15 (Post 11333)
yeah it's nice for once to not here you say your gay... :lol:

I thought that was pretty funny myself.

Mr Lefty 03-08-2008 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 11334)
I thought that was pretty funny myself.

:lol: yeah unfortunately not as many people fall for it as I'd hoped... guess not many + 1 guys here

OneSickPsycho 03-08-2008 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebbs15 (Post 11335)
:lol: yeah unfortunately not as many people fall for it as I'd hoped... guess not many + 1 guys here

I do it on purpose.

Mr Lefty 03-08-2008 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 11340)
I do it on purpose.

yeah I know... I just got done watch'n the 07 MotoGP review so figured I'd give ya some shit...

LaFemmes 03-08-2008 08:23 AM

Breaks, exhaust, sprockets, suspension and power commander.
Just my 2 cents.

OneSickPsycho 03-08-2008 08:27 AM

And spell check FTW!

ceo012384 03-09-2008 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 9153)
From what I've read it's a VERY noticeable and dramatic difference... I'd like someone who's actually rocked some CF's to chime in...

I've head similar about light wheels. Since so much of the mass that is lost is near the circumference of the wheel, the effect of that drop is a huge drop in angular momentum since the relationship scales with radius... End effect: it's easier to get the wheel rolling and easier to stop it. Makes sense.


There was a dude with CF wheels on his duc last time I was at the track.... fucking siiiiiiiiick.


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