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Particle Man 03-11-2011 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 455999)
Torque steer FTL. Even a V6-powered G6 has too much torque steer.

take a look at the demographic of folks buying those suckers new - I don't think they're worried about torque steer ;)

pauldun170 03-11-2011 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 455999)
Torque steer FTL. Even a simple V6-powered G6 has too much torque steer.

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Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 456000)
take a look at the demographic of folks buying those suckers new - I don't think they're worried about torque steer ;)

Considering how over boosted and numb steering racks are in certain GM vehicles, does it matter?

I think the draw on those (hi po shoved in fwd) is effortless power and point and shoot ability in conditions typical of that encountered by the car buying public.

Gas Man 03-11-2011 03:47 PM

The old ones are cool. But I meant the mid 90's version of the SS
http://pics.hoobly.com/full/3EKVTY4LWOIDKU9J3Q.jpg

pauldun170 03-11-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 456037)
The old ones are cool. But I meant the mid 90's version of the SS
http://pics.hoobly.com/full/3EKVTY4LWOIDKU9J3Q.jpg

Member of the extend family has one.
Those cars still have road presence but outside of looks and sound need a lot of work to keep up with Camry in the next lane.

At the very least, if you are going to dump money into a car, they are cool candidates.

Gas Man 03-11-2011 06:36 PM

And there are plenty of those DONE up.

Particle Man 03-12-2011 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 456031)
Considering how over boosted and numb steering racks are in certain GM vehicles, does it matter?

I think the draw on those (hi po shoved in fwd) is effortless power and point and shoot ability in conditions typical of that encountered by the car buying public.

And they end up being fleet cars anyhow.

Homeslice 03-12-2011 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 456031)
Considering how over boosted and numb steering racks are in certain GM vehicles, does it matter?
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Considering how over-aggressive GM throttles typically are, for the first few millimeters of travel? Yeah I'd say so.

101lifts2 03-12-2011 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 455987)
Erm yeah, that model really succeeded.

The only reason it's considered cool today is because it's rare.

Sorry..but that car is badass...

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 455935)
come on man...

All these years of talking cars there have been plenty of examples where we've shown different preferences...

I tend to prefer older GM makes from the 70s, but gas is so fucking expensive here I can't see driving one.

101lifts2 03-12-2011 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 455971)
An Impala with a V8? Didn't even know it existed, but no thank you. A V8 with FWD is just dumb.

The one I test drive has nearly 0 torque steer from a dead stop and hauled all the way to 100 very quickly.

101lifts2 03-12-2011 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 456129)
Considering how over-aggressive GM throttles typically are, for the first few millimeters of travel? Yeah I'd say so.

It's in the torque converter. From my experience, the hydramatics tend to have a lower stall speed than the Jap counterparts. I'm not sure if it's a design issue with the Jap stuff tho.


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