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Quite a lot of GM's on this list. What say you, 101? redflip
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That list is very broad for the years listed. But if you think about the volume of vehicles made during that time period, its not that bad. I do agree that most of those vehicles were complete and utter shitboxes.
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One thing I'll say is that there really is only a couple GM models being represented here. The Colorado, Canyon, and H3 are all on the same chassis. You'll notice that it's the 4WD models that are the problem.:idk: Plus several other multiple models are in fact the same vehicle.
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Al is correct...many of those are on the same chassis. I'm surprised about the Impala... |
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http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2007/01/impala-ss/ http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...20/090553.html |
When I was car shopping I test drove a CTS, STS, Impala SS, Grand Prix GTP and a Buick. I ended up buying the 08 Caddy STS, but the Impala was hella fast for a big car.
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Which impalas are we talking abt? The newer front drive ones are blah. The older mid 90's rear wheel drive are sweet.
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I hvnt drove a frnt ss version. But the regular versions are. Blah
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All these years of talking cars there have been plenty of examples where we've shown different preferences... |
An Impala with a V8? Didn't even know it existed, but no thank you. A V8 with FWD is just dumb.
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Erm yeah, that model really succeeded.
The only reason it's considered cool today is because it's rare. |
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Torque steer FTL. Even a simple V6-powered G6 has too much torque steer.
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I think the draw on those (hi po shoved in fwd) is effortless power and point and shoot ability in conditions typical of that encountered by the car buying public. |
The old ones are cool. But I meant the mid 90's version of the SS
http://pics.hoobly.com/full/3EKVTY4LWOIDKU9J3Q.jpg |
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Those cars still have road presence but outside of looks and sound need a lot of work to keep up with Camry in the next lane. At the very least, if you are going to dump money into a car, they are cool candidates. |
And there are plenty of those DONE up.
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The G6 with the big engine yanks the wheel even when simply trying to pass on the highway. The result of inferior geometry of the driveaxles & tie rods.
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Most Japanese makes if you notice you have to rev the engine in order for the vehicle to move. This is a function of either a higher torque converter stall speed or a less efficient torque converter. |
How does it not make any sense? Torque steer is not caused by the torque converter...... You can have torque steer even with a manual transmission.
I'm no engineer, but from what I've read, torque steer needs to be engineered out by making good decisions with the length of the 2 driveaxles (equal vs. unequal), as well as the mounting location of the steering rack & associated hardware. |
And LSD transmissions....
I know I have one in my HHR SS. It will torque steer like a mad man... then the LSD kicks in and puts it back in line. But it makes it a handfull in gears 1-3. Pulls left hard, you compensate and it jerks right as it moves power to the other wheel. |
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Someday I will get another one. |
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But...if the torque converter stall is low like in GM makes I would believe that the torque steer would be more prevalent off the line vs a Jap car which would move the vehicle slower. But of course the half shaft lengths and trans to CV joint angle makes the difference. |
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Word. I own one, and its been completely reliable, never a bit of maintenance aside from regular stuff (brakes, rotors, and one ball joint). My dad owned one which had 300k KM when he sold it and bought his truck, and it too was completely reliable, and only needed a little bit of work near the very end of its life. My mom is buying mine from me (taking over the payments, I was planning on keeping it after getting the truck because its so good on gas, but she wanted it.). My granfather also has one, has never had a problem with it. My uncle has an 08 Impala SS, and its been perfect so far, and he drives a shit ton. I just dont see how anyone can say that the Impala is unreliable. They are a HUGE seller here in Canada, and I have never heard anything but good about them. As a matter of fact, the reason they sell so well up here is because they have a reputation for being a great, reliable car. Me thinks this list is shit. That said, they are horribly boring cars, for sure. |
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NYPD has a bunch of different cars now, I think they even have soem toyotas |
Toyotas, crown vics are sorta still being produced, impalas, chargers, magnums, the 4 door chevy smaller than the impala, and I think the honda accord
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I met this guy on vacation in the Dominican Republic. He wanted to buy a Vette, his wife didn't want him to. Said, "Spend money on the Impala instead".. http://www.ron.verbaas.com/ |
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