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Particle Man 09-24-2009 09:14 PM

Converting the SV for touring...
 
Ok, so I am mid-conversion and figured I'd post some progress here... I added a gel seat back in 2003 and that was about it until my body decided to force the issue when my back decided to completely give out with no warning and I couldn't even walk... at that point, I figured out that I need to make my bike more comfortable.

I love my SV and I can't drop the $ on a new bike at the moment so...

As of this past week:
  • SVN triple clamp
  • SVN risers (I'll add risers above and beyond the stock ones from Twisted Throttle over the winter)

I also ordered the Buell lower foot pegs since my knees have never been particularly happy with the riding position of the K3 SV.

tached1000rr 09-24-2009 09:20 PM

How long can you ride before things just become too uncomfortable now?

Particle Man 09-25-2009 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tached1000rr (Post 269938)
How long can you ride before things just become too uncomfortable now?

in stock configuration I can only go for about 2-3 hours (with 5-6 minute breaks for gas etc) before my back and knees get so bad that I need to stop for several hours.

Trip 09-25-2009 01:08 PM

I would look into sending your old seat to Russell Day Long. They look goofy, but they are very very comfortable. They are also pretty pricey, but well worth it.

Rider 09-25-2009 01:10 PM

Bite the bullet, sell the SV and get a VSTROM.

CasterTroy 09-25-2009 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 270226)
I would look into sending your old seat to Russell Day Long. They look goofy, but they are very very comfortable. They are also pretty pricey, but well worth it.


Or a Bill Mayer Saddle

I had a corbin on the blackbird..it was 500 times better than stock, but this Bill Mayer saddle is the best seat I've ever sat on.

833 miles in 12 hours and I was pissed I had to stop at 245 mile intervals for gas

But of course, my travel bikes an RT :shrug:

Particle Man 09-25-2009 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rider (Post 270227)
Bite the bullet, sell the SV and get a VSTROM.

Once we're secure in a larger place I'll consider a different bike.

karl_1052 09-26-2009 09:15 AM

Sell the sled.

It's not like you get lots of snow anyways.:tremble:

Particle Man 09-27-2009 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 270473)
Sell the sled.

It's not like you get lots of snow anyways.:tremble:

you've got a better chance if having a period than of me getting rid of my sled :lol:

Gas Man 09-28-2009 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rider (Post 270227)
Bite the bullet, sell the SV and get a VSTROM.

If staying in the same brand Rider is correct!

Particle Man 09-29-2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 271245)
If staying in the same brand Rider is correct!

eventually. :)

Actually, I'm saving my pennies for a BMW GS ;)

marko138 09-29-2009 03:31 PM

I'm about at the same point with the comfort deal. As in, I'm not, at all. Ever.

Gas Man 09-29-2009 03:59 PM

You are never in for comfort?

marko138 09-29-2009 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 271721)
You are never in for comfort?

Not on my bike I'm not. Bout 10 minutes in to the ride my back will start to hurt.

Gas Man 09-29-2009 04:01 PM

OIC... yeah I dont have that problem... wonder why.... hmmmm

marko138 09-29-2009 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 271729)
OIC... yeah I dont have that problem... wonder why.... hmmmm

Yeah...wonder why? :lol

Gas Man 09-29-2009 04:07 PM

Might be this little tid bit
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...Comfort011.jpg

or maybe just the whole package!

marko138 09-29-2009 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 271738)
Might be this little tid bit
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...Comfort011.jpg

or maybe just the whole package!

Bitch, you know I can see PB shit at work.

Gas Man 09-29-2009 04:26 PM

My lumbar support/backrest. You'll see it later.

marko138 09-29-2009 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 271764)
My lumbar support/backrest. You'll see it later.

You'll see it later.

Particle Man 09-29-2009 04:33 PM

I walked into Oneida Suzuki today and looked at several bikes - I have to say I still like my SV better than almost anything there, just need to adjust the ergos. I have the SVN triple and bars on now (picked up new bar-ends while in Oneida Suzuki since the hardware was a bit oxidized on the old ones; comes in handy living about 15 minutes away :lol:) and it seems like 100 times better than with the clipons. Now I just have to wait for my other parts to come in at Oneida (brake fluid reservoir from my little "incident" the other day and new throttle cables from convertibars.com) so I can actually ride it.

I also ordered a higher windscreen while getting the other parts today and got notification yesterday that the Buell pegs shipped. Pics to follow as soon as I can.

RACER X 09-30-2009 08:12 AM

bicycle shorts under your jeans will fix all your bum issue's.

guess it;s me, but i didn't have any real back pains w/ the busa, granted it had risers and heli bars. but i did do 17 hrs the first day and that was really the first time i had ridden that bike. and it has a stock seat, i contribute the no pain to biking shorts.

and i'm outta shape like a mofo.

Particle Man 09-30-2009 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 271991)
bicycle shorts under your jeans will fix all your bum issue's.

guess it;s me, but i didn't have any real back pains w/ the busa, granted it had risers and heli bars. but i did do 17 hrs the first day and that was really the first time i had ridden that bike. and it has a stock seat, i contribute the no pain to biking shorts.

and i'm outta shape like a mofo.

my gel seat takes care of that for the most part but I may invest in something better soon (I don't like the rise of the gel seat)

RACER X 09-30-2009 08:59 AM

thats kinda my point.........i have a fact. seat and was able to stand alot of hrs due to shorts......

ontwo 09-30-2009 10:43 AM

What kind of luggage you got?

Particle Man 09-30-2009 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontwo (Post 272067)
What kind of luggage you got?

I have a Joe Rocket tailbag (old one) that I got from Tricktape a while back and a Nelson Rigg tank bag (non-magnetic). I'll eventually replace the tail bag with saddle bags and a new tail bag if I can find a set for the right price.

ontwo 09-30-2009 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 272068)
I have a Joe Rocket tailbag (old one) that I got from Tricktape a while back and a Nelson Rigg tank bag (non-magnetic). I'll eventually replace the tail bag with saddle bags and a new tail bag if I can find a set for the right price.

I've got the Nelson Rigg tail bag that I love. I'm looking to get the NR saddle bags to go with it. I've only got the Icon primer tank bag. I need a bigger one. Have you seen the SV tourer thread over at svrider.com? Lots of good ideas there

Particle Man 09-30-2009 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontwo (Post 272069)
I've got the Nelson Rigg tail bag that I love. I'm looking to get the NR saddle bags to go with it. I've only got the Icon primer tank bag. I need a bigger one. Have you seen the SV tourer thread over at svrider.com? Lots of good ideas there

yep - I've been surfing there for ideas too using my original user name (PrtclMn001) :)

ontwo 09-30-2009 11:01 AM

I was wondering if that was you. I mostly lurk over there.

Sixxxxer 09-30-2009 11:11 AM

Racer Whats this crazy theory you have on biker shorts???

marko138 09-30-2009 12:33 PM

I've been tossing around the idea of getting the Buell select seat. And I need the Buell touring pillon for my wife. She complains of the shitty padding on the stock pillon.

karl_1052 09-30-2009 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer (Post 272084)
Racer Whats this crazy theory you have on biker shorts???

He stole it from Trace.

Tylenol and bicycle shorts. The gel padding in the shorts helps with the numb bum issue.

Particle Man 09-30-2009 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 272140)
He stole it from Trace.

Tylenol and bicycle shorts. The gel padding in the shorts helps with the numb bum issue.

but the Tylenol leaves impressions on my ass cheeks when I sit on it...

ontwo 09-30-2009 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 272170)
but the Tylenol leaves impressions on my ass cheeks when I sit on it...

:lmao:

karl_1052 09-30-2009 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 272170)
but the Tylenol leaves impressions on my ass cheeks when I sit on it...

closer to the hole. It is a supository

marko138 09-30-2009 02:55 PM

Quote:

closer to the hole. It is a supository
Yikes. michael jackson

Particle Man 09-30-2009 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 272229)
closer to the hole. It is a supository

ouch

exit only.

marko138 09-30-2009 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 272265)
ouch

exit only.

Pfff. Live a little. :whatwhat:

RACER X 09-30-2009 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 272140)
He stole it from Trace.

Tylenol and bicycle shorts. The gel padding in the shorts helps with the numb bum issue.

dunno if i stole it, i wore them 8-9yrs ago when i went cross country, but to san fran side.........:boobs:

btw, buy decent one's pearlizumi are nice.......

Particle Man 09-30-2009 04:00 PM

well, the Buell pegs arrived today - a little Demel action and they should fit fine. Pics to follow.

Particle Man 09-30-2009 10:44 PM

Old Peg:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...001/OldPeg.jpg

New Peg:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...01/NewPegs.jpg

I also got some new toys when I went to Oneida Suzuki:

New Windscreen (4 inches higher than stock):

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...Windscreen.jpg

Keyguard for the new triple clamp (converted from clip-ons to handle bars):

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/BrakeRes.jpg

Particle Man 10-01-2009 10:00 AM

Picture of the full handle bar conversion:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...01/NewBars.jpg

ontwo 10-01-2009 10:07 AM

Nice, I like the ergos on the naked. I think you'll like the new bars

Particle Man 10-01-2009 10:27 AM

The whole thing:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/FullBike.jpg

ontwo 10-01-2009 10:28 AM

Nice. Any long trips planned?

Particle Man 10-01-2009 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontwo (Post 272569)
Nice. Any long trips planned?

I WAS freakin' planning on going to the NE Rally but had to go into work instead.

I think I'll take a trip into the Adirodacks sometime in the next couple weeks.

ontwo 10-01-2009 10:47 AM

Cool. I'm planning on a fall Gap trip by myself for a weekend. I hope I can free up some time for it.

Sixxxxer 10-02-2009 12:26 AM

What exactly do the Pegs do??

ontwo 10-02-2009 09:34 AM

From the pics, it appears they drop down about an inch

Particle Man 10-02-2009 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer (Post 273038)
What exactly do the Pegs do??

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontwo (Post 273119)
From the pics, it appears they drop down about an inch

Yep, that's exactly what they do. It may not seem like a lot but it's just enough to keep my knees from locking up.

marko138 10-02-2009 10:00 AM

Love that color on your SV. Nice work.

Particle Man 10-02-2009 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 273149)
Love that color on your SV. Nice work.

I wish I could take total credit but it came out of the crate that way :lol: (I did specifically request the copper color that year which hasn't been an available color since).

And thank you :D

Gas Man 10-05-2009 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 272138)
I've been tossing around the idea of getting the Buell select seat. And I need the Buell touring pillon for my wife. She complains of the shitty padding on the stock pillon.

As if its not going to be worse after enjoying the back seat of my couch!:skep:

marko138 10-06-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 274546)
As if its not going to be worse after enjoying the back seat of my couch!:skep:

No kidding. Thanks alot for that.

Gas Man 10-06-2009 05:55 PM

Yeah well now she wants you to have a cruiser... but I think she said "as well". That means 2 bikes!!! You're welcome!

marko138 10-06-2009 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 275069)
Yeah well now she wants you to have a cruiser... but I think she said "as well". That means 2 bikes!!! You're welcome!

She likes the XR1200X. I need to get that bad boy stateside.

Gas Man 10-06-2009 08:42 PM

F yea man... I got some connections over there... want to order one via England?

marko138 10-06-2009 09:15 PM

Yes. Of course I do.

Gas Man 10-07-2009 09:19 AM

I can ask my bud Lee

Particle Man 10-07-2009 08:43 PM

buy me one too while you're at it. :D

Particle Man 02-27-2011 08:59 PM

I'd like to get just a wee bit more upright. I have higher risers and stuff - just need bars that go slightly more back. Any thoughts?

Mr Lefty 02-27-2011 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 452942)
I'd like to get just a wee bit more upright. I have higher risers and stuff - just need bars that go slightly more back. Any thoughts?

make sure the cables reach at full lock...


also you may want a new screen if you end up with buffeting...

Particle Man 02-27-2011 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Lefty (Post 452943)
make sure the cables reach at full lock...


also you may want a new screen if you end up with buffeting...

Already have longer cables and lines and a higher screen.

I'm still just a tad but too leaned over (I guess I have short arms) so I was wondering what bars would get me just a wee bit back more.

tommymac 02-27-2011 09:57 PM

heli bars?

Particle Man 02-27-2011 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommymac (Post 452970)
heli bars?

that's going backwards.:lol:

I yanked the clip-ons off and put N risers and bars on along with SW Motech risers. They're pretty upright but I want just a little more.

Mr Lefty 02-27-2011 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 452968)
Already have longer cables and lines and a higher screen.

I'm still just a tad but too leaned over (I guess I have short arms) so I was wondering what bars would get me just a wee bit back more.

ahh I misunderstood what you were asking...

since you already have bars... what about the rox riser pivoting risers?

http://www.roxspeedfx.com/cgi-bin/ca...?subcat_id=268

Particle Man 02-27-2011 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Lefty (Post 452979)
ahh I misunderstood what you were asking...

since you already have bars... what about the rox riser pivoting risers?

http://www.roxspeedfx.com/cgi-bin/ca...?subcat_id=268

hmmm, that's interesting.

Wonder if I can use that in conjunction with the existing risers...

Mr Lefty 02-27-2011 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 452982)
hmmm, that's interesting.

Wonder if I can use that in conjunction with the existing risers...

you'd probably end up with a lot of "twist" if you were pushing it... I just wouldn't want to be as "disconnected" as I think you'd feel doubling up like that

Particle Man 02-27-2011 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Lefty (Post 452985)
you'd probably end up with a lot of "twist" if you were pushing it... I just wouldn't want to be as "disconnected" as I think you'd feel doubling up like that

True. Wonder if 'strom bars are higher..

Mr Lefty 02-27-2011 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 452986)
True. Wonder if 'strom bars are higher..

I had renthal high "button" bars put on my DRZ... still not high enough for me when standing offroad... but you can look into those

tommymac 02-28-2011 07:15 AM

or you could buy a more touring oriented bike :lol:

Gas Man 02-28-2011 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommymac (Post 453026)
or you could buy a more touring oriented bike :lol:

There's a novel idea. :lol:

Cutty72 02-28-2011 09:31 AM

Just throw some apes on it :lol:

dReWpY 02-28-2011 10:33 AM

check out different bends of bars, i have seen a few that look like they could fit your application

Particle Man 03-06-2011 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewpy (Post 453072)
check out different bends of bars, i have seen a few that look like they could fit your application

That's what I think I'll do.

Turbo Ghost 03-06-2011 10:05 PM

When you can't find a bend or width you're happy with, just make your own!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...lebarsteps.jpg
In addition to that, I had the triple-clamp welded up and re-drilled to accept bar-clamps with rubber bushings from (I think) a TDM850.

Particle Man 06-08-2011 02:03 PM

Well, I picked up some Bikemaster Daytona handlebars from Motorcycle Superstore (22 bucks). Since I already had the SVN bars and risers on the bike installation was pretty simple. Throttle cables were already longer than I needed before, as were the brake lines and clutch cables.

Hardest part was getting more slack from the wiring leading to the instrument pods on the bars. I ended up having to unplug the wiring and untangling it from the frame where Suzuki had wrapped it (wtf) and got another 5 inches of play or so from the wiring.

Old bars on top, Daytona bars on bottom:

http://prtclmn001.smugmug.com/Other/...t7635868-L.jpg

There's just enough of a difference to make the ride a thousand times better. They're wider so I have to get used to the additional leverage (went around a curve on my test run and ground the pegs :lol:). This should allow me to sit further back on the saddle.

Sweet.

ontwo 06-08-2011 04:01 PM

Nice. Gotta love the cheap Bikemasters. Great that they are affordable enough to try different setups


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