it was a joke kid... and my argument... for the 1000th time... wasn't saying Icon was crap... it was that they don't have the rep that Teknic and A*'s has... and that they're products as a whole are flashier than most others.
and yeah FTW is for the win. FTL is For the loss....
I used to think it was FUCK THE WORLD! and couldn't figure out FTL was either