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02-07-2012, 07:24 PM
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02-07-2012, 01:50 PM
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Assuming, in a magical world, that these new programs could actually stop people from spending it on beer, entertainment, etc ......I'd be all for it.
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02-09-2012, 10:55 PM
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People on welfare owe us taxpayers a life devoid of pleasure? What, they're not miserable enough for you already? JC
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02-09-2012, 11:42 PM
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02-10-2012, 09:00 AM
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I don't care if they go to a strip club, ball game, freaking Carribean cruise, or their local street walker. I just don't want them using welfare money on those things. Sure, better restrictions won't save us tax money. Welfare is a drop in the bucket in the first place, even if we could save money on it. It's the goddamn principle. I get just as outraged hearing about rich congressmen abusing tax money, and that's generally a drop in the bucket too (when used for things like coke parties or hiding dead hookers, or whatever it is congressmen do for fun these days).
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02-10-2012, 09:33 AM
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Ride Like an Asshole
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If you can afford those things, you shouldn't be on welfare... Those are not necessities to sustain life and yet they can afford things like that, things that people who bust their ass working shitty jobs cannot afford... and they aren't doing shit for it? Yes I have a big fucking problem with that. What's the motivation to get off of welfare? Perhaps I'm jaded... Working in call centers will do that. I cannot tell you how many times I've had people request hours cuts or quit the job because 'they were making too much money so they're benefits would be cut'... Hell, I've sat through unemployment hearings in which the former rep has said they quit or got fired on purpose to ensure their benefits wouldn't be cut or so that they could get additional benefits. I've heard these motherfuckers BRAGGING about having their bills paid by the government allowing them to have extra cash to buy bags of weed and shots at the bar... Meanwhile, there were people there who were genuinely struggling to get by and doing the EXACT opposite... These were the people who busted their asses, worked as many hours as possible, and were ALWAYS concerned about their jobs... They didn't have money for iPhones, bags of weed, or to go out to eat and get drunk every night... they rode the bus, didn't have cell phones, and shopped at the thrift stores... However, they were busting their ass to make themselves a better life... The next time I see someone swiping their EBT card while talking on the latest iPhone in the checkout line, I'm going to think of this thread... I guess people deserve a free fucking ride... A life devoid of pleasure? Pahfuckinglease... Welfare is not for allowing people to have whatever the fuck their little hearts desire... it's to keep people alive and give them a chance to get their shit in order. |
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02-10-2012, 11:14 AM
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02-10-2012, 02:11 PM
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02-10-2012, 02:18 PM
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02-08-2012, 09:04 AM
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Elitist
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OK fine, so it's not even close to being a major election issue, but even if this program doesn't save any money at all, what is wrong with preventing people from spending money on things they shouldn't be spending money on? The value of a government program is not measured solely by how much money it saved or collected.
Also, by preventing people from spending welfare on inappropriate things, maybe they will become more motivated to get off welfare, thus saving everyone money. Even if not, who cares. I'm all for "owning" people who try to abuse my taxpayer dollars, as long as the net cost of doing so isn't huge. This program might be poorly executed, but the intent is good, IMO. As another example, why is nobody complaining about the expense of running the SEC? Should we only enforce on rich people? Last edited by Homeslice; 02-08-2012 at 09:07 AM.. |
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