Absolute worste beginner bike - Page 4

Audiomechanic · 06-30-2008, 07:46 PM

This is the worst.

Phenix_Rider · 06-30-2008, 09:13 PM

My vote is the B-King. Be damn careful on that throttle, or you're DONE. 1/8-1/2 turn is insane. WOT is afterburner on the SR-71. Brakes are just as good.

Smittie61984 · 06-30-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiSig1071

but even in the right hands a plated CR500X could kill you.

Haha. Didn't think about that. Yeah those are stupid fast...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JBBoJQehzpA

PT996S · 07-02-2008, 11:30 PM

To play devils advocate....

Maybe the worst beginners bike is one that is too tame and instills a pre-mature sense of confidence! Such as the before mentioned 65Hp SV650 or any small hp twin (Monster, EX500, GS500). I have seen plenty of people get really F~ed up on those little bikes in Europe just as fast as the big bikes. And if you get yourself into a bad "Damn I really wish I had another 20hp to make this pass before the bus coming the other way makes me a greasy spot" situations the low HP, low tech bikes can be worse.

Not to meantion, they give up so much on the braking and suspension technology. So that in bad corner ing situations that a top end I4 600 could handle because of their race breed heritage and relatively tweeked brakes and suspension. The little low dollar "beginner bikes" end up being really unforgiving of rookie mistakes like jabbing the brake or a rapid line change and now your in the weeds or guardrail.

Am I wrong?

Amber Lamps · 07-03-2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PT996S

To play devils advocate....

Maybe the worst beginners bike is one that is too tame and instills a pre-mature sense of confidence! Such as the before mentioned 65Hp SV650 or any small hp twin (Monster, EX500, GS500). I have seen plenty of people get really F~ed up on those little bikes in Europe just as fast as the big bikes. And if you get yourself into a bad "Damn I really wish I had another 20hp to make this pass before the bus coming the other way makes me a greasy spot" situations the low HP, low tech bikes can be worse.

Not to meantion, they give up so much on the braking and suspension technology. So that in bad corner ing situations that a top end I4 600 could handle because of their race breed heritage and relatively tweeked brakes and suspension. The little low dollar "beginner bikes" end up being really unforgiving of rookie mistakes like jabbing the brake or a rapid line change and now your in the weeds or guardrail.

Am I wrong?

I tried the brakes/suspension argument on the old forum.... good luck buddy! Oh and to start it off,a SV650 still makes enough power to make a pass quicker than any typical passenger car. You can get yourself in a passing situation that having a jet pack won't get you out of if you try hard enough.

Shift · 07-03-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PT996S

To play devils advocate....

Maybe the worst beginners bike is one that is too tame and instills a pre-mature sense of confidence! Such as the before mentioned 65Hp SV650 or any small hp twin (Monster, EX500, GS500). I have seen plenty of people get really F~ed up on those little bikes in Europe just as fast as the big bikes. And if you get yourself into a bad "Damn I really wish I had another 20hp to make this pass before the bus coming the other way makes me a greasy spot" situations the low HP, low tech bikes can be worse.

Not to meantion, they give up so much on the braking and suspension technology. So that in bad corner ing situations that a top end I4 600 could handle because of their race breed heritage and relatively tweeked brakes and suspension. The little low dollar "beginner bikes" end up being really unforgiving of rookie mistakes like jabbing the brake or a rapid line change and now your in the weeds or guardrail.

Am I wrong?

Yes, you are. If your having trouble passing a car with one of the above mentioned bikes you are doing either two things. 1) Speeding above the posted speed limit, because the highest rural road is only 65mph and I KNOW any of those bikes can sling you by a car in a second or two because my little old 250 could jump 65-80 pretty quick. or 2) Driving like an ass and trying to make a pass when you really should just wait a few seconds, wait for the apposing car to go by, the proceed to pass the car in front of you. And as for the suspension line, gotta raise the bs flag. Sure they can't compare to the race replicas, but their not as bad as you think. And that throttle and front brake is a lot damn more forgiving

pickle.of.doom · 07-03-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by R1up0n1

That they are...I think stock the damn thing only outs out 65hp

My bike only puts out @ 30hp and I'll absolutely SMOKE ya through the twisties

DLIT · 07-03-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pickle.of.doom

My bike only puts out @ 30hp and I'll absolutely SMOKE ya through the twisties

Which one?

pickle.of.doom · 07-03-2008, 11:34 PM

The SuMo

Dnyce · 07-04-2008, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider

My vote is the B-King. Be damn careful on that throttle, or you're DONE. 1/8-1/2 turn is insane. WOT is afterburner on the SR-71. Brakes are just as good.

aka the naked busa?
just curious-
why the b-king over the busa?

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