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Old 10-04-2010, 12:36 PM   #11
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Sure, but what other cars in this class have a diesel?...
In America not many, but considering this car isn't coming here it should be compared to its competition in Europe where they pretty much all have multiple diesel options.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:36 PM   #12
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Yeah, 200hp isn't a lot, but what are the torque numbers? Being a diesel, I'm inclined to think the torque should be plety to keep it competitive.

I'd like to see more diesels available in the US. I'd really like to have a turbodiesel, but I can't justify a 3/4 ton or larger truck to put it in. If I could get a clean turbodiesel in a sedan or smaller truck (something like a Ranger or even a half-ton) with a real manual transmission, I'd be stoked.
Jetta tdi, been here for years. YEARS
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Jetta tdi, been here for years. YEARS
With somewhat limited availability and jacked up price.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:41 PM   #14
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With somewhat limited availability and jacked up price.
He didn't say anything about that :P
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:47 PM   #15
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He didn't say anything about that :P
I should have. A huge premium for the diesel takes away a lot of the allure, as does limited availability and highly questionable reliability.

I also absolutely hate FWD. There is not a single FWD vehicle in my household. RWD or AWD FTW. That's also part of the allure of a small truck- trucks put their power to the right set of wheels.
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I should have. A huge premium for the diesel takes away a lot of the allure, as does limited availability and highly questionable reliability.

I also absolutely hate FWD. There is not a single FWD vehicle in my household. RWD or AWD FTW. That's also part of the allure of a small truck- trucks put their power to the right set of wheels.
In that case yer looking at bmw, old mercedes, datsun maximas, and that horrendous oldsmobile
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I should have. A huge premium for the diesel takes away a lot of the allure, as does limited availability and highly questionable reliability.

I also absolutely hate FWD. There is not a single FWD vehicle in my household. RWD or AWD FTW. That's also part of the allure of a small truck- trucks put their power to the right set of wheels.
I've been waiting for a diesel car with all that fixed for a looooooong time.
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:02 PM   #18
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I've been waiting for a diesel car with all that fixed for a looooooong time.
Yeah, I know. I got really excited over the diesel GM built for their half-ton trucks, only to have them kill the project before it ever went into production. Even if they had built it, it was projected to tack on something like another $6K onto the price of the truck, which is way too much damn money.

I have seen Ford Rangers overseas with small turbodiesels and manual transmissions. I know that the EPA makes diesel production in the US a bitch, but is it really just not possible to get something like that over here without a ridiculous price tag?
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:38 PM   #19
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First glance sort of reminds me of the Audi TT
Mix between the TT and the Mitsubishi Eclipse, yeah.
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Hmm reminds me of a mini-R8...
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