automotive engineer question - Page 2

marko138 · 08-11-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rider

Truth. People who buy new cars usually take it back to the place they bought for service generating more revenue for that manufacturer. Why take away some revenue just to make the car easier to work on?.

Another factor is, with so much emissions controls and engine diagnostics, it's hard to fit all that under the hood and still maintain size and weight(fuel economy) standards AND make it roomy enough to easily service.

My wife bought a new Honda Accord last summer. Nice car. Dealer gave us some coupons for service and inspections, etc. when we bought it. Took it to the dealr for it's first service. Cost me like 15 bucks after the coupons. Excellent. Well it's due for it's 10,000 mile oil change and an inspection.

Still have coupons. I tell wife to take it to the dealer. Have coupon for FREE INSPECTION. I assume this does not include the emissions inspection (which it did not).

Final bill...83 FUCKING DOLLARS!

Are you kidding me? With a free inspection you are gonna charge me 83 motherfucking bucks to do an emissions inspection and a goddamn oil change. GET FUCKING BENT HONDA! That car will not ever return to that dealer.

racedoll · 08-11-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2

And as far as engineers not knowing how to take stuff apart and knowing the "rest" of the vehicle, it is true. I cannot tell you know many A/C design release engineers did not understand how an internal combustion engine operated, let alone how to fix it.

Completely agree. We have design engineers at work with all kinds of degrees and such. They can design/develop one hell of torque converter but you ask them how it all works in the car and they don't have a clue.

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

Ah the days when you could look in the owners manual to get the info you needed for basic maintenance...

Oil pan drain plug location and torque #
Filter location..
light bulb replacement instructions....etc etc

Now it's...

If your vehicle headlamp is out call your dealer
If your oil is low...call your dealer
If the car needs gas call your dealer
If you have vericose veins call your dealer
If you want to activate the left turn signal...call your dealer
If you are unsure of your wifes birthday...call you dealer

Amen! It is quite ridiculous!

Tmall · 08-10-2009, 07:20 AM

They design it outside of the engine compartment then drop it in.

That and what homeslice said..

Yamerhaw · 08-10-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BobTheBiker

I have to ask, after spending the last week+ working on my 96 s10, and spending about $300ish in parts on it.

is it just me, or are automotive engineers just plain cruel bastards that take pleasure in making those of us who work on a car suffer?

whats your take?
do they lack hands on experience working on the vehicles they make?
are they just stupid and unable to see bad designs?
is it a twisted and sadistic game they enjoy playing with us to watch us suffer and break shit while they get off to it?
all of the above perhaps? hell if I honestly know.

i'm an auto mechanic and ask myself these same questions every day

BobTheBiker · 08-10-2009, 01:58 PM

I knew I wasnt the only sumbitch that asked these questions. graned there ARE a few cars I'm not annoyed by, like my S10 which is but it isnt hard to work on.

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Tmall Aspiring Rapper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Halifax, NS Moto: '12 CB1000R Posts: 3,569	They design it outside of the engine compartment then drop it in. That and what homeslice said..

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BobTheBiker too much time on my hands Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: the northern district of god damn Moto: 01 ZX6R, looking for more now. Posts: 1,802	I knew I wasnt the only sumbitch that asked these questions. graned there ARE a few cars I'm not annoyed by, like my S10 which is but it isnt hard to work on.