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Old 11-17-2008, 12:14 PM   #11
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Ok, im a big fan of guns, but im lost on why anyone wants an assault rifle.

Barring a zombie apocalypse, im pretty sure I can defend myself quite nicely with a Glock 22 or a GP6. And probably more accurately.

They have one purpose, (Assault Rifles) to mow down as many people as possible at one time.

I dont want them banned, I just dont see the need.
I dunno man. Obama's cheeks look awefully sunken. He could be the zombie overlord, just setting them all up for the Christmas feast
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:16 PM   #12
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Ok, im a big fan of guns, but im lost on why anyone wants an assault rifle.

Barring a zombie apocalypse, im pretty sure I can defend myself quite nicely with a Glock 22 or a GP6. And probably more accurately.

They have one purpose, (Assault Rifles) to mow down as many people as possible at one time.

I dont want them banned, I just dont see the need.
I love guns myself. I have found that for home protection a pump shotgun does all you need. Everyone knows that sound!! Then add a woman leveling it at you. Holly shit!!! That should scare anyone in there right mind
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:18 PM   #13
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Kat let me play with a gun down in SC last month...

it didnt go well, i almost killed about ten people.
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:20 PM   #14
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Ok, im a big fan of guns, but im lost on why anyone wants an assault rifle.

Barring a zombie apocalypse, im pretty sure I can defend myself quite nicely with a Glock 22 or a GP6. And probably more accurately.

They have one purpose, (Assault Rifles) to mow down as many people as possible at one time.

I dont want them banned, I just dont see the need.
It's because the Second Amendment to the US Constitution isn't about "hunting".
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:20 PM   #15
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post election panic has officially set in.

Grab your tin foil hats everyone, the ride will get bumpy from here.
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Old 11-17-2008, 12:45 PM   #16
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Ok, im a big fan of guns, but im lost on why anyone wants an assault rifle.

Barring a zombie apocalypse, im pretty sure I can defend myself quite nicely with a Glock 22 or a GP6. And probably more accurately.

They have one purpose, (Assault Rifles) to mow down as many people as possible at one time.

I dont want them banned, I just dont see the need.

Why not?

You can safely get from piont A to point B in a Toyota Corolla, why would you want a 200mph Murcialago?

You pay too much to turn gasoline into noise but not speed on a Vespa, why choose a Harley?

Not every acquisition has to be perfectly justifiable.

Toys are fun.
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Old 11-17-2008, 02:44 PM   #17
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Things I have read show Obahma wanting to ban auto-riffles but not much else. From what I have seen he supports the second amendment. Has anyone seen real proof that he's going to be a "gun banner"? I may have missed some crucial info so fill me in if you have more details PLZ.
Obama has voted for every piece of legislation against guns and ammo. Joe Biden was instrumental in getting the "assault rifle" ban passed and helped author it. He has also supported every bill against your right to defend yourself. The Democratic party is all about control. If they get your guns, they control you.


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Ok, im a big fan of guns, but im lost on why anyone wants an assault rifle.

Barring a zombie apocalypse, im pretty sure I can defend myself quite nicely with a Glock 22 or a GP6. And probably more accurately.

They have one purpose, (Assault Rifles) to mow down as many people as possible at one time.

I dont want them banned, I just dont see the need.
Apoc, every semi-auto pistol is also a target for the Liberals. Any weapon that is designed for self defense is always first on the list. Just like the 10 rnd mag limit that was part of the last one. After those get banned then they go after your hunting rifles that hold 5 rounds, then they go after the single shots and then they own you.

Just an asside, assault rifles are not designed to "mow down people". People trained in the use of full auto weapons know that full auto fire is designed to "suppress" the enemy and is not accurate or effective other than keeping them pinned down. And you can't buy a full auto rifle without getting the permits so 98% are probably semi-auto just like your pistols. What's the difference then?

The Liberals know that the rght to bear arms is what gave us the power to defy England and win our Independance in 1776. They know the only way to maintain control of the people is to disarm them.

It's not guns that kill people any more than its pencils and keyboards that misspell words.
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:05 PM   #18
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just a quick google of Obama Gun control

Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008)
FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008)
Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008)
Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008)
2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007)
Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004)
Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998)
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)



Joe Biden:

Keep assault weapons ban; close gun show loophole. (Apr 2007)
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)
Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)
Voted YES on background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
Voted NO on more penalties for gun & drug violations. (May 1999)
Voted NO on loosening license & background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
Voted NO on maintaining current law: guns sold without trigger locks. (Jul 1998)
Rated F by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun control voting record. (Dec 2003)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gun_Control.htm
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:09 PM   #19
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just a quick google of Obama Gun control

Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008)
FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008)
Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008)
Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008)
2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007)
Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004)
Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998)
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)



Joe Biden:

Keep assault weapons ban; close gun show loophole. (Apr 2007)
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)
Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)
Voted YES on background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
Voted NO on more penalties for gun & drug violations. (May 1999)
Voted NO on loosening license & background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
Voted NO on maintaining current law: guns sold without trigger locks. (Jul 1998)
Rated F by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun control voting record. (Dec 2003)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gun_Control.htm
Thanks for all the info. I'll be doing some more research you made it a heck of a lot easier for me.
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:21 PM   #20
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The Second Amendment to the US Constitution: A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free
State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be
infringed.


Would somebody be kind enough to show me anywhere in the above that said anything about duck hunting or target shooting?
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