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12-22-2010, 09:40 AM | #1 |
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First off, SHit! how did i miss this thread... and DLIT, I am so sorry.
I am going to take a WAG (wild-assed guess) about the cause of the crash. You said that in the transition from left to right the front end just "went away"; without more details it's just a guess, but bikes like the R1 (short wheelbase, little rake, short trail) can do a little "pogo" type thing where when you've popped from full lean to full lean side-to-side the suspension unweights for a second at the top of the transition.... a lot of it has to do with if you are trail braking or on throttle and in that photo, it appears that the direction of travel is slightly downhill which also contributes to the unweighting on the front. Doesn't take much at racetrack speeds. Rushing even slightly downhill causes the vectors to change NOT in your favor. Just guessing without more data. But I've lost the front in similar situations on bikes i was familiar with, on roads I "Knew".
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12-22-2010, 10:16 AM | #2 | |
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12-22-2010, 02:56 PM | #3 |
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Yeah you will. Give it time. You need to find a road thats a slower pace with quicker turns. Of course then you'll have to move back down to a 600. So....were you at least faster than this guy you met?
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12-22-2010, 03:10 PM | #4 |
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I still have my R6. And I'm the fastest guy I know on the streets. But I highly doubt I'll ever ride street on a sport bike again.
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You just have to find a more settled pace in a better controlled area. If you find a road that you can ride up and down, then you know there isn't going to be rocks in the middle of the road. Of course, you have to find people who will ride that same road with you or you won't be having any fun. The road you lowsided on had gravel on it. Its the chance you take when you ride a road fast that you haven't scanned the area beforehand. It's pretty risky IMO.
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12-22-2010, 08:09 PM | #6 |
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WOW Dlit... glad you're ok man. Watching all of that, just makes me glad I don't do it anymore.
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12-22-2010, 10:26 PM | #7 | |
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My insurance is gonna sky rocket after I claim the R1. I probably couldn't afford keeping the R6 fully covered anyway. Off the street it will come.
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12-22-2010, 11:46 PM | #8 |
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Dude I've seen/heard the exact same thing 10 times. Trust me it's because your in ur 20s and you need a fast fix. I still do, but I have slowed down a little. You just need to ride track only then or your not gonna get ur fix until you get older or married lol.
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12-22-2010, 10:16 PM | #9 |
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I know in Nevada, riding street can be well over the century mark. My friend just got back from a go-kart track with his Gixxer 1000 and he said he had a ball. Lower speeds and super tight. He wants me to take my old GS there. But I'm afraid of what happened to you could happen to me. At my age, I would take forever to heal.
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