Student quits high school choir over Islamic song

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

And my point is that the song was referring to the Muslim god. Which, today, is a different god than that of the Jews and the Christians, whose gods are also different from each other.

Same God. Different style of worship. They even share some of the same books, as I stated previously. Facts don't change.

[Lamnidae]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Same God. Different style of worship. They even share some of the same books, as I stated previously. Facts don't change.

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IIRC isn't Jesus supposed to be a type of prophet in Mohammed's eyes?


But anyways, like I said, my thing is differance in the way it's applied. I don't see the ACLU crying fowl over this because theyr'e pushing "god" and religion on people.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Amblyopic

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IIRC isn't Jesus supposed to be a type of prophet in Mohammed's eyes?


But anyways, like I said, my thing is differance in the way it's applied. I don't see the ACLU crying fowl over this because theyr'e pushing "god" and religion on people.

It's been a while but if I recall correctly from my readings he's a prophet and, more importantly, the prophet who returns at the end of things.

[fatbuckRTO]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Same God. Different style of worship. They even share some of the same books, as I stated previously. Facts don't change.

If they were the same god, the different styles of worship would describe denominations. They are different religions, at least according to those who practice them.

At this point it's a semantic argument, I think. I understand the three share holy books, some dogmas, and a lot of history (both verified and dogmatic). But they are different gods in my book, by my definition of what makes a thing "different" from another thing. To a Christian, worship of the Muslim god is idolatry, and if it goes without a belief in Christ as the savior (a god) it's a path to hell. To a Muslim, belief in Christ as a god is idolatry, and denial of Mohammed as the prophet is some sort of sin. A Jew would also consider worship of Christ as idolatry.*


* These are, of course, the "by-the-book" dogmatic views, as I understand them. I get that some Christians don't believe in hell, some Jews eat shellfish, and some Muslims have probably never even heard of Gabriel.

[derf]

Soooo, possible fallout for the kid? Think this will hurt him academically? hurt his applications to colleges? This sort of falls into the lack of respect for others category the 3way I see it.

[fatbuckRTO]

Originally Posted by derf

the 3way I see it.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Now I'm supposed to answer not only whether they are three different deities, but whether those three could fornicate?

Although, if they are the same god, the implications are mind-boggling...

[derf]

Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Now I'm supposed to answer not only whether they are three different deities, but whether those three could fornicate?

Although, if they are the same god, the implications are mind-boggling...

the father, the father, the father and the holy shit ghost?

[Lamnidae]

Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Now I'm supposed to answer not only whether they are three different deities, but whether those three could fornicate?

Although, if they are the same god, the implications are mind-boggling...

wow... mindfuck - right there...

[Amber Lamps]

Man, this is the real problem.... No one really studies religion anymore. Yahweh, Allah and God are the same person. There is no question. Both are off-shoots of the Israelite mono-theistic religion. Which in turn has been theorized as a modification of an older middle eastern religion that can be traced back to Mesopotamia or the "cradle of civilization". Moreover, Jesus never started a "religion", he preached a slightly different, "reformed" version of Judaism but he still considered himself a Jew. His followers actually started "Christianity" and Rome took the ball and ran away with it. Some of you would argue that Catholics and Lutherans have a different God. Oh and btw basically all religions are "rip offs" of each other. There are elements of the older "pagan" religions in Judaism and a great deal of Catholic rituals were "borrowed" from "pagan" religions to better assimilate them. Even the original Roman religion was little more than a direct "rip off" of older Greek beliefs.

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

Man, this is the real problem.... No one really studies religion anymore. Yahweh, Allah and God are the same person. There is no question. Both are off-shoots of the Israelite mono-theistic religion. Which in turn has been theorized as a modification of an older middle eastern religion that can be traced back to Mesopotamia or the "cradle of civilization". Moreover, Jesus never started a "religion", he preached a slightly different, "reformed" version of Judaism but he still considered himself a Jew. His followers actually started "Christianity" and Rome took the ball and ran away with it. Some of you would argue that Catholics and Lutherans have a different God. Oh and btw basically all religions are "rip offs" of each other. There are elements of the older "pagan" religions in Judaism and a great deal of Catholic rituals were "borrowed" from "pagan" religions to better assimilate them. Even the original Roman religion was little more than a direct "rip off" of older Greek beliefs.

All anyone pays attention to is that women are "forced" to do or not do things. Oh, and it's different then MY religeon so it must be wrong.

It's the dont you tell me what to do mentality of today. Don't try to muddle things up with logic.