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Old 03-21-2011, 09:24 PM   #1
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That keyway looks pretty worn *and* twisted. Maybe it's just the photo..

Glad the grinder did the trick.
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Old 03-21-2011, 09:48 PM   #2
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That keyway looks pretty worn *and* twisted. Maybe it's just the photo...
Not the photo. It's fucked up.

But that's the problem with these cars. The keyway deforms, the key breaks, the timing is thrown off, and the crank pulley begins to wobble. That's why I had to remove the old crank cog in the first place: to access the keyway and repair it with Loctite 660 liquid metal.

Which I expected to harden like actual metal, but after 24 hours has still failed to cure. It's as gooey today as it was yesterday when I squeezed it out of the tube. According to thousands of other worn-crank Miata owners, this stuff fills all the extra space in the slot, keeping the key in place once the cog is torqued to the crank nose.

Right.

Also notice the broken bits of the lip around the crank seal. That's finesse, bitches.

Actually it's from a big fucking hammer.
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Old 03-21-2011, 09:54 PM   #3
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Well, I wish you luck.

I'm not one to trust liquid metal, JB Weld, etc. on things like cranks. I'd be dropping the oil pan to swap in another crank, but that's just me.

Hopefully everything works good when you get it all put back together. Otherwise, you'll be going through most of this work again.
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Well, I wish you luck.

I'm not one to trust liquid metal, JB Weld, etc. on things like cranks. I'd be dropping the oil pan to swap in another crank, but that's just me.

Hopefully everything works good when you get it all put back together. Otherwise, you'll be going through most of this work again.
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:29 PM   #5
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If you are intent on saving the crank you could try to weld it and have the keyway machined out again, but even that would probably either deform the crank, weaken it or both, and you would have to remove it from the block or destroy the seals. Either way you really need to repair it correctly. The liquid metal or JB weld will last a few miles, but either way it will start to wear pretty fast pretty soon
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:33 PM   #6
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I'm not one to trust liquid metal, JB Weld, etc. on things like cranks. I'd be dropping the oil pan to swap in another crank, but that's just me.
This stuff isn't like cheap Walmart JB Weld. It's expensive, hard to find, and many Miata owners have used it with much success. I don't understand why it won't harden, however.

You aren't really relying on the liquid metal; for the most part, it's just there to keep things in place during reassembly. They key is keeping the whole assembly properly torqued down. Neglecting that allows the crank bolt to back out and the cog/pulley to shift on the crank nose.

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Hopefully everything works good when you get it all put back together. Otherwise, you'll be going through most of this work again.
The hell I will. If this doesn't work, I'll either sell it as a non-running roller or replace the engine with a warrantied, remanufactured unit. Dropping/replacing the crank can cost as much as replacing the entire long block.
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