2011 Big Four model changes?

[Homeslice]

If you're a racer with a 1000, then yeah, you'd use lower rpm at probably every point on the track.......But street riders? When I owned a 600 it's not like I went screaming around at 10K everywhere. Shit I probably only hit 10K like once a day. The need and/or the opportunity just don't present themselves on the street.

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

If you're a racer on a race track, then yeah, you would always use lower rpm's on a liter bike than you would on a 600.......But street riders?

In that case, a litre bike actually can be at a significantly lower rpm. You can lug a litre through the corner because of the larger amount of tq on hand. You roll into the throttle of a 1000 at any rpm and it gets going in a hurry. Do it on a 600 and you're met with... A delay.

mph to mph the 1000 will always be spinning at a lower rev.

[smileyman]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

If you're a racer with a 1000, then yeah, you'd use lower rpm at probably every point on the track.......But street riders? When I owned a 600 it's not like I went screaming around at 10K everywhere. Shit I probably only hit 10K like once a day. The need and/or the opportunity just don't present themselves on the street.

They do on the highway.

i have had alot of experience in the Ozarks chasing ZX10s and Gsxr 1Ks with my 636. I can corner inside them and roll open quicker, they can't. They corner hard and they have to feather the throttle on the edge of the tire, spinning and throwing rocks and gravel at me.

when they brake deep, square off, and get opened up on the fat part of the tire they drive off and leave the 636. All while spending major cheddar of tires.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by smileyman

They do on the highway.

i have had alot of experience in the Ozarks chasing ZX10s and Gsxr 1Ks with my 636. I can corner inside them and roll open quicker, they can't. They corner hard and they have to feather the throttle on the edge of the tire, spinning and throwing rocks and gravel at me.

when they brake deep, square off, and get opened up on the fat part of the tire they drive off and leave the 636. All while spending major cheddar of tires.

And the zx6 destroyed the r1 in laptimes on motorcyclist's bike of the year test last year. Guess which one they picked? Hint: it wasn't green

[smileyman]

Dont blame em, I want an R1 too, but Its all in what you prefer but just for arguments sake...here are some real numbers from Sportrider...
Honda 600RR wet 412
Honda 1K wet 442
Yammie R6 wet 427
R1 wet 477
ZX6R wet 421
ZX10 R wet 462

[smileyman]

I think you should have one of each, like a Remington 700 in .308 for when you want the long kill, the M4 when you wanna lay down some cover fire...

[Homeslice]

Ownage.....The liters are all 30-50 lbs heavier.
Not to mention, except for the Honda, they all have those STUPID dual exhausts.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Ownage.....The liters are all 30-50 lbs heavier.
Not to mention, except for the Honda, they all have those STUPID dual exhausts.

Duh see above about emissions. More cc's = more catalyst and silencers. 03 - 05 was the best year for that kind of comparo. Btw. Where's the twin exhaust on the zx10?

[DLIT]

The R6 is due for changes, but I'm not holding my breath. They update about every three years usually, and 2010 makes three. Maybe them pulling out of WSS in a year they would be defending the title means something, I dunno.

All Honda really has to do is put a slipper clutch on the 600RR and be good, haha.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by DLIT

The R6 is due for changes, but I'm not holding my breath. They update about every three years usually, and 2010 makes three. Maybe them pulling out of WSS in a year they would be defending the title means something, I dunno.

All Honda really has to do is put a slipper clutch on the 600RR and be good, haha.

isint it four years old? the current design came out in 06'