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Old 03-30-2010, 12:34 PM   #1
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We got a little lost in the details.

Apoc we seem to agree on most things as you said. If the article is talking about % of protein to body mass, that makes sense. But that also may only be one study.
Ya, you were looking at the profile of the whole beef, and I was talking about the profile of the meat itself, which is why I was talking about Amino Acids and DNA profiles. Had I understood what you were talking about, I would have stopped arguing long ago. But its hard to determine who's right when your arguing about totally different things
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:36 PM   #2
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its the goddam internets!
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:38 PM   #3
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its the goddam internets!
I blame Obama!

And to a lesser extent, Al Gore!
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Obama and Gore, both eat corn in feedlots!
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Corn's danger to our health extends beyond the fattening nature of HFCS.

Grass fed livestock has Omega 3 oils. Corn fed does not. Just this change alone in what we feed our livestock has marked the single biggest health "experiment" [read: gamble] ever undertaken with the public as the fucking guinea pig. Even farmed fish now is being fed this shit, and now (not surprisingly) has almost no fucking useful oils in it anymore either.

Welcome to the big corn experiment.

Take a fucking supplement, or you may die.
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Corn's danger to our health extends beyond the fattening nature of HFCS.

Grass fed livestock has Omega 3 oils. Corn fed does not. Just this change alone in what we feed our livestock has marked the single biggest health "experiment" [read: gamble] ever undertaken with the public as the fucking guinea pig. Even farmed fish now is being fed this shit, and now (not surprisingly) has almost no fucking useful oils in it anymore either.

Welcome to the big corn experiment.

Take a fucking supplement, or you may die.
Dude, corn fed livestock isnt the reason for obesity, people eating pure shit for food, and not exercising is. If you cant eat healthy, and take 45-60 minutes out of your busy day to exercise, then really, theres noone to blame but you.

I played 18 holes of golf this morning, ended up meeting 3 others on the tee and played with them. One of them went back to the clubhouse at the turn to eat, and skipped the back 9, after almost crawling up the hill to the clubhouse. 2 hours of liesurely walking and hitting golf balls, and he couldnt finish his round. Obesity is an epidemic, and its from a lazy, lethargic, uneducated society. Not from corn.
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Dude, corn fed livestock isnt the reason for obesity, people eating pure shit for food, and not exercising is. If you cant eat healthy, and take 45-60 minutes out of your busy day to exercise, then really, theres noone to blame but you.

I played 18 holes of golf this morning, ended up meeting 3 others on the tee and played with them. One of them went back to the clubhouse at the turn to eat, and skipped the back 9, after almost crawling up the hill to the clubhouse. 2 hours of liesurely walking and hitting golf balls, and he couldnt finish his round. Obesity is an epidemic, and its from a lazy, lethargic, uneducated society. Not from corn.
oh man, we gotta start this again?
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oh man, we gotta start this again?
Actually, if it wasnt for that happening during my round this morning, I wouldn't even have come in this thread. But when you cant finish a round of golf, but have no problem finishing two burgers and fries, smothered in ketchup at the clubhouse, then the problem is with you, not with what your meat is fed. And dude had a Clikgear electric pushcart!
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Dude, corn fed livestock isnt the reason for obesity
No, overeating is, rather fucking obviously.

The fact remains, however, that (as I have suspected, and said for years) HFCS DOES metabolize different than table sugar, and is more fattening.

Also, the near complete removal of Omega 3 from our diets (as a result of changing the diet of livestock to corn) may have little to do with obesity, but it has EVERYTHING to do with health.
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