Passing rules

[baninja]

Originally Posted by smileyman

No race group means find another track day organization or get your novice license!!! You won't learn anything lapping behind some slow bozo every corner (even if you only pass in the straights you WILL catch another slow bozo before the next corner!)

Just because there is no "race group" doesn't mean there aren't fast riders in group 2. In fact, a good number of the people that run in group 2 are licensed racers. IIRC passing is allowed in the straights for the morning sessions in group 2. Passing while entering a turn or on the exit of a turn is usually allowed in the afternoon sessions for group 2 only. Moira can correct me if I'm wrong. Stuffing another rider (mid turn passing) is not needed during a trackday. If the rider is truly fast he/she will find a safe place to pass if they need too. My 12 year old son has never had an issue on his RS85 or his RS125, and he passes 85% of the riders in group 2. A racer on a SV650 or 1000 shouldn't have a problem either.

[Dnyce]

just curious, how do u physically enforce a rev limit? i understand making mention of it, but without tach recall or being on the back seat, id think its kinda hard, no?

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by Dnyce

just curious, how do u physically enforce a rev limit? i understand making mention of it, but without tach recall or being on the back seat, id think its kinda hard, no?

It is obvious when observing the track who is smooth and consistent, and who is not.

Or, do you mean to ask what the penalty is?

[Mr Lefty]

I think he means how do you know how's hitting 12000RPM and who's hitting 12500... ya know?

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by ebbs15

I think he means how do you know how's hitting 12000RPM and who's hitting 12500... ya know?

Ah - it's more of a "race to the corner" rule. As it's explained, the intent is to have people maintain a consistent and smooth lap rather than parking it in the corners and binning it in the straights.

[Mr Lefty]

ahh ok... gotcha...

[Dnyce]

Originally Posted by ebbs15

I think he means how do you know how's hitting 12000RPM and who's hitting 12500... ya know?

exactly what i meant, thats how i interpreted the rule the way she said it...

Originally Posted by azoomm

Ah - it's more of a "race to the corner" rule. As it's explained, the intent is to have people maintain a consistent and smooth lap rather than parking it in the corners and binning it in the straights.

...but apparently i misunderstood it. gd idea though, parkin in the corners causes accidents

[ilVoce]

Originally Posted by Dnyce

...but apparently i misunderstood it. gd idea though, parkin in the corners causes accidents

Yes. Yes it does.

[smileyman]

Originally Posted by baninja

Just because there is no "race group" doesn't mean there aren't fast riders in group 2. In fact, a good number of the people that run in group 2 are licensed racers. IIRC passing is allowed in the straights for the morning sessions in group 2. Passing while entering a turn or on the exit of a turn is usually allowed in the afternoon sessions for group 2 only. Moira can correct me if I'm wrong. Stuffing another rider (mid turn passing) is not needed during a trackday. If the rider is truly fast he/she will find a safe place to pass if they need too. My 12 year old son has never had an issue on his RS85 or his RS125, and he passes 85% of the riders in group 2. A racer on a SV650 or 1000 shouldn't have a problem either.

I concur. I was just pointing out the need to be in a race group or an actual race if you REALLY need/want to pass in the corners. I am a former CMRA racer and I run 2nd group when I am on my street equipped bike. When I am fully race prepped and have proper rubber I run race group.