How to hang off the bike

DLIT · 06-16-2008, 04:25 PM

Now I understand your previous statement...I think. You can be at max lean, but you won't be turning as much as you can be because your weighting the inside, which you would think just lean more and before you know it, you lowside. My avatar is at a point where I lean it just a bit more to finish off a decreasing radius turn. If I was weighting the bar too much, I could easily lowside or over-shoot the turn.

ceo012384 · 06-16-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DLIT

Now I understand your previous statement...I think. You can be at max lean, but you won't be turning as much as you can be because your weighting the inside, which you would think just lean more and before you know it, you lowside. My avatar is at a point where I lean it just a bit more to finish off a decreasing radius turn. If I was weighting the bar too much, I could easily lowside or over-shoot the turn.

I think we're on the same page here. Basically for a given lean angle, the bike will turn tighter with no bar pressure than if you are pressuring the handlebar... this is counterintuitive to the common notion that lean angle and speed determine the cornering radius.

On top of that, the obvious problem is that handlebar pressure allows the front to wash easily if there are bumps/cracks.

DLIT · 06-16-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ceo012384

Basically for a given lean angle, the bike will turn tighter with no bar pressure than if you are pressuring the handlebar... this is counterintuitive to the common notion that lean angle and speed determine the cornering radius.

On top of that, the obvious problem is that handlebar pressure allows the front to wash easily if there are bumps/cracks.

Right! And this thread is the reason why we all do track days. Because it's hard as fuck to master all of this. This is probably one of the best threads in this forum.

ceo012384 · 06-16-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DLIT

Right! And this thread is the reason why we all do track days. Because it's hard as fuck to master all of this. This is probably one of the best threads in this forum.

For sure. I'm going to rate it 5 stars right now. And it should be stickied.

Talking about this shit is what gets me pumped to get back on the track.

Then I realize my bike is wrecked

Don't you worry.... shit is going to be so sick when I'm done fixing it, it will boggle your mind

Dave · 06-16-2008, 09:22 PM

ive been trying to apply some of the things ive read in here and i think ive found a much more effective position than what i had been using. too bad today's weather was extra sketchy so i only got to try it in one well known corner. keep it comin!

dReWpY · 06-16-2008, 10:12 PM

trip:

can you critque my form or lack there of? not that i have been in front of you for longer then one or two turns

Trip · 06-16-2008, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by drewpy

trip:

can you critque my form or lack there of? not that i have been in front of you for longer then one or two turns

I dont know, I don't remember riding behind you.

06-16-2008, 04:25 PM	#1
DLIT Clit Commander Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Las Vegas Moto: 2012 Ducati 1199 Panigale S Posts: 4,189	Now I understand your previous statement...I think. You can be at max lean, but you won't be turning as much as you can be because your weighting the inside, which you would think just lean more and before you know it, you lowside. My avatar is at a point where I lean it just a bit more to finish off a decreasing radius turn. If I was weighting the bar too much, I could easily lowside or over-shoot the turn. __________________ Dress for the crash. Not the ride.

06-16-2008, 09:22 PM	#5
Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	ive been trying to apply some of the things ive read in here and i think ive found a much more effective position than what i had been using. too bad today's weather was extra sketchy so i only got to try it in one well known corner. keep it comin!