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How to hang off the bike

  • 09-09-2008 | 10:12 AM
  • Dave
  • anyone got good pictures from the outside of the corner? im pretty sure im getting the lock you leg in part wrong and id like a good example to compare to
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  • 09-09-2008 | 10:42 AM
  • DLIT
  • Search for "5/17", I posted a thread with a few pics, not sure if it's what you're looking for.
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  • 06-05-2009 | 03:13 AM
  • 101lifts2
  • I'm with CEO (yes the thread is old, but fuck u)..you don't purposely rotate around the tank. You slide from side to side. Now if a slight rotation makes you more comfy, then do eeeeeet. Because face it, the bike isn't made specifically for you. I've taken a Pridmore and Code school, they don't really preach this.
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  • 06-08-2009 | 01:29 PM
  • OreoGaborio
  • Quote Dave
    anyone got good pictures from the outside of the corner? im pretty sure im getting the lock you leg in part wrong and id like a good example to compare to
    Depending on the corner & how your body is set up (in the front or the back part of the seat), it my very well be physically impossible to put the inside of your knee directly against the tank.... But I DO lock my outside foot/calf onto the outside subframe & press on the tank with the inside of my thigh or whatever part of my outside leg is against the tank.

    In the first photo below i'm driving out of a corner where exit is crucial, so I'm a little bit in the "back seat"... thus my knee is a little closer to the tank. In the second pic I'm rounding a corner that isn't an "exit corner" but more of a "throw-away" (ie, not entry specific, not exit specific), thus I'm more over the front end which puts the "contact patch" between my leg & the tank is a little bit above my knee & closer to the inside of my thigh. In the last pic, even though it's an "exit corner", I'm hanging way off the seat to keep the bike upright over some pretty major bumps/pavement transitions, so my knee is way away from the tank and i'm not putting much pressure on the tank with my leg at all.









    Plenty more examples of racing photos from various angles can be found here - http://www.eck-racing.com/media.html

    My teammate/team manager, Arcy, takes pics from all angles of MANY racers at every LRRS race weekend.

    Last edited by OreoGaborio; 06-08-2009 at 01:40 PM.
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  • 06-08-2009 | 09:26 PM
  • Antwanny
  • Quote r!der
    TAKE IT TO THE TRACK!
    was told that today by teh policia
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  • 07-26-2009 | 03:22 PM
  • Homeslice
  • Quote zortness
    Here's an image for some visual references relating to my earlier post. This is me coming up behind Danny in turn 7 at LVMS. Danny's not slow, he's running 1:28's at LVMS, which is pretty quick for a non-racer.

    Here's what's going on in the picture: I'm coming up behind Danny. I actually passed him coming out of this corner. It's a double-apex corner decreasing radius corner, I'm just past the point where I use the most lean, so this is the exit half of the corner (I'm already off the brakes and on the gas). Danny's on a good line, but I'm carrying about 5mph more than him.

    Here's what I see: Danny's hunting for the track with his knee, so instead of rotating around the tank, he's moving directly off to the left. This is forcing his upper body to stay more over the tank. It's also pushing his toes out further on his inside foot, which takes away some of his usable lean angle. His arms also look tense in this picture, to me anyway. Also, Danny's looking at the curbing, I'm looking at the next corner (a right hander that's not more than 200ft past this curb). My form is not perfect either, my head should be lower as I exit the corner.
    On the other hand, his chest being lower provides a lower center of gravity, and it also allows him to take his outside forearm & elbow and contact the tank with it, providing feedback & stability. So I don't think body position alone explains why you happened to be faster than him in this particular corner.

    I think the bottom line is that everyone has a different comfort zone, and how they ride depends on their body size & shape, the shape of the bike, and their strength/fitness.

    Last edited by Homeslice; 07-26-2009 at 03:56 PM.
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  • 08-20-2009 | 10:52 PM
  • caveman
  • ok you guys are just NUTS!!!!

    I am currently borrowing a co-workers GSXR1000. Its fun to fly on the highway, and I MEAN FLY. I hit at least 150 on the way to work and home each time I ride. But since there really isn't much by the way of the twisties up here. (at least not like by you Trip) I don't think that I would ever push myself that far off the bike. I mean armpit over the tank, eat the mirror, rotate around teh tank. WHAT THE HELL. that sounds ludicrous. I need to return the bike before I either wind up a greasy smudge down I-75 or in jail for driving insanely too fast. I think I passed a cop today and he just let me go. At least I think it was a cop everything is mostly a blur at 165 or 170 not sure at that point. Oh well, I will hopefully have my slow and steady HOG by the end of the year anyhow.

    Caveman
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  • 08-20-2009 | 11:43 PM
  • Dave
  • Quote OreoGaborio
    Depending on the corner & how your body is set up (in the front or the back part of the seat), it my very well be physically impossible to put the inside of your knee directly against the tank.... But I DO lock my outside foot/calf onto the outside subframe & press on the tank with the inside of my thigh or whatever part of my outside leg is against the tank.

    In the first photo below i'm driving out of a corner where exit is crucial, so I'm a little bit in the "back seat"... thus my knee is a little closer to the tank. In the second pic I'm rounding a corner that isn't an "exit corner" but more of a "throw-away" (ie, not entry specific, not exit specific), thus I'm more over the front end which puts the "contact patch" between my leg & the tank is a little bit above my knee & closer to the inside of my thigh. In the last pic, even though it's an "exit corner", I'm hanging way off the seat to keep the bike upright over some pretty major bumps/pavement transitions, so my knee is way away from the tank and i'm not putting much pressure on the tank with my leg at all.









    Plenty more examples of racing photos from various angles can be found here - http://www.eck-racing.com/media.html

    My teammate/team manager, Arcy, takes pics from all angles of MANY racers at every LRRS race weekend.
    good stuff oreo! now i need to do something about my dead tires and find some corners to try shit out on
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