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Old 08-20-2009, 12:09 PM   #1
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Where ya been Capn? Good to hear from yas...
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Old 08-20-2009, 04:54 PM   #2
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So, I stop at the dealer the other day after a nice little benefit ride and I take look at the showroom floor and why do I let myself get hypnotized by that beautiful bike? I mean I see it in my mind with the scarlet red and black two tone and I am in love. Any body got $25k to lone me? Why are HD's so DAMN expensive?

Frustrated as hell

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Well actually you were sitting on the CVO version first... for $35k. Then I smacked you and told you to sit on the Limited version and save yourself $10k. Which would have only got you another 7 CI, some more chrome, different wheels, and flashier paint... oh and a heated seat. Not worth 10k.

$35k CVO Ultra


$25K Limited Ultra (just like mine + $2k for flashy paint, 7 CI, chrome wheels, luggauge rack, and heated grips.)




But of coarse he wants the Limited in Scarlet Red/Black. Which will look

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Steel frames, engines designed 10 years ago(based off a design from the turn of the century), crappy susupension, and one hell of an image.

I would go jap for a cruiser.
Keeping dreaming... Twin Cam motor is a great and new motor design. We aren't talking about your dad's old Knuckle!

The 2009 FLH touring models have a brand new frame. Crappy suspension? The new FLH models are carvours... your rocket wouldn't perform if carrying around this big a bike. Susprised you didn't mention brakes... oh yeah... that's cause they are carrying a complete Brembo brake system with intergrated ABS... oh I almost forgot... no ugly abs tone ring... internal in the hub.

Lets not ignore that not all the jap cruisers combined can they even compare to just HD branded aftermarket support. Not to mention the manufactures that do carry metric aftermarket parts carry at least 2 to 3 times more HD aftermarket.

You shouldn't speak about what you don't know or understand.

That being said... has anybody seen the new Victory line up... more specifically the touring line up??

Another American bike that probably has just as much support as metric cruisers.
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Victory has released four new models for 2010.

Two of them are 8-ball versions of current bikes. The Hammer and Vision will be stripped-down and blacked-out for sinister duty.

The other two are totally new bagger models, bent towards the touring crowd.
Check out the new CrossRoads, and Cross Country

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Old 08-20-2009, 07:39 PM   #3
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Keeping dreaming... Twin Cam motor is a great and new motor design. We aren't talking about your dad's old Knuckle!

The 2009 FLH touring models have a brand new frame. Crappy suspension? The new FLH models are carvours... your rocket wouldn't perform if carrying around this big a bike. Susprised you didn't mention brakes... oh yeah... that's cause they are carrying a complete Brembo brake system with intergrated ABS... oh I almost forgot... no ugly abs tone ring... internal in the hub.

Lets not ignore that not all the jap cruisers combined can they even compare to just HD branded aftermarket support. Not to mention the manufactures that do carry metric aftermarket parts carry at least 2 to 3 times more HD aftermarket.

You shouldn't speak about what you don't know or understand.
Well that is just great, now explain the price disparity between a Harley and a Jap cruiser.
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:41 PM   #4
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Lets all just calm down and go get another drink.

I know that when buying an HD you are paying a considerable sum for the name, however, you can't deny that the bikes look damn nice. Not to mention the support and the service you can get with a small percentage of add to the price in financing. I refer, of course, to the no ride interuption clause stating if while on the road for a trip and you break down they will put you up in a hotel, near a HD service center, trailer the bike to a shop, repair and get you back on the road ASAP. Thats a pretty good assurance. I haven't seen one metric shop even offer such a thing not to mention when I bought my brand new Shadow Sabre I only got a 1 year 12k mile warranty. Minimum the HD comes with is a 3 yr powertrain and electric warranty and service package.

Then the after market support is absolutely incredible. I mean you can get a lot of parts and such for the metrics but they aren't garranteed to work or fit and the companies that sell usually give you a headache trying to return.
I have gone through 2 Vance & Hines baffles and finally had to just run 2 in long bolts with the Nylok nuts and some serious blue thread lock to keep the F-in thing in the pipe and keep from hearing my neighbors complaining.

So I guess that I will pay the price and become one of the millions of HD followers. I am not doing it because others give me shit or just fit in. Gas Man can attest that I march do the beat of my OWN drum and tend to do things a little extreme. So paying the cash for the Ultra just seems to be what is completely inline with my current standards. I like the bike. I want the bike. I WILL get the bike.

Now I just hope that I don't lay it down, and scuff the shit out of it. I will just cry if that happens.

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Old 08-20-2009, 09:48 PM   #5
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Lets all just calm down and go get another drink.

I know that when buying an HD you are paying a considerable sum for the name, however, you can't deny that the bikes look damn nice. Not to mention the support and the service you can get with a small percentage of add to the price in financing. I refer, of course, to the no ride interuption clause stating if while on the road for a trip and you break down they will put you up in a hotel, near a HD service center, trailer the bike to a shop, repair and get you back on the road ASAP. Thats a pretty good assurance. I haven't seen one metric shop even offer such a thing not to mention when I bought my brand new Shadow Sabre I only got a 1 year 12k mile warranty. Minimum the HD comes with is a 3 yr powertrain and electric warranty and service package.

Then the after market support is absolutely incredible. I mean you can get a lot of parts and such for the metrics but they aren't garranteed to work or fit and the companies that sell usually give you a headache trying to return.
I have gone through 2 Vance & Hines baffles and finally had to just run 2 in long bolts with the Nylok nuts and some serious blue thread lock to keep the F-in thing in the pipe and keep from hearing my neighbors complaining.

So I guess that I will pay the price and become one of the millions of HD followers. I am not doing it because others give me shit or just fit in. Gas Man can attest that I march do the beat of my OWN drum and tend to do things a little extreme. So paying the cash for the Ultra just seems to be what is completely inline with my current standards. I like the bike. I want the bike. I WILL get the bike.

Now I just hope that I don't lay it down, and scuff the shit out of it. I will just cry if that happens.

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I'm just teasing you guys, Sean. Get what you want man, I took a lot of flak for getting the Beemer and I am absolutely loving it.
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:34 PM   #6
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I have bought my share of vehicles but I never got treated better and with speedier service than at the H-D shop. Even better than any car dealership I have shopped. They really went out of the way to make me feel special
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:44 PM   #7
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I have bought my share of vehicles but I never got treated better and with speedier service than at the H-D shop. Even better than any car dealership I have shopped. They really went out of the way to make me feel special
It may just be the sign of the times. When I was searching for the beemer at dealerships, people were practically begging me to buy their bikes.
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Old 08-21-2009, 01:13 AM   #8
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I'm just teasing you guys, Sean. Get what you want man, I took a lot of flak for getting the Beemer and I am absolutely loving it.
Hey Trip I know you don't mean anything bad about it. My whole take the motorcycle scene is this: Drive what you want, take care of it, take ownership of it, and love it, and last but definatly not least RIDE THE MF-ER. If you do that, then your a biker. As long as you got your knees in the breeze and you are enjoying yourself no matter what you ride your a biker. I just hate the people who will only buy the HD's because thats whats popular. I bought my first bike was Yamaha 535, it was small, but it still hauled ass when you gave a twist of the wrist and I was on two wheels. I buy bikes that I LIKE not what I think the guy next to me likes. Now the fact that when a fine piece of ass notices you on the HD and comments.....thats just icing on the cake.

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Old 08-21-2009, 09:35 AM   #9
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My whole take the motorcycle scene is this: Drive what you want, take care of it, take ownership of it, and love it, and last but definatly not least RIDE THE MF-ER. If you do that, then your a biker. As long as you got your knees in the breeze and you are enjoying yourself no matter what you ride your a biker. I just hate the people who will only buy the HD's because thats whats popular. I bought my first bike was Yamaha 535, it was small, but it still hauled ass when you gave a twist of the wrist and I was on two wheels. I buy bikes that I LIKE not what I think the guy next to me likes. Now the fact that when a fine piece of ass notices you on the HD and comments.....thats just icing on the cake.

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Ok this pretty much sums it up for me. Enjoy.
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The 2009 FLH touring models have a brand new frame. Crappy suspension? The new FLH models are carvours...
Carvers? Compared to what?
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