KTM Super Duke

FT BSTRD · 01-18-2009, 09:09 PM

We got to test ride several KTM's in Suches in October.

The SuperDuke is a fantastic handling bike. It feels very similar to an XBSTT in its seating position and responsiveness. The brakes are great.

The only complaint besides the price tag was the FI. It was very on off snatchy. It was difficult to keep it "at speed" and it surged badly. The 990A I rode did the same thing.

Strangely, the best fueled bike was the 950 Super Enduro that was carburated.

Cutty72 · 01-18-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

We got to test ride several KTM's in Suches in October.

The SuperDuke is a fantastic handling bike. It feels very similar to an XBSTT in its seating position and responsiveness. The brakes are great.

The only complaint besides the price tag was the FI. It was very on off snatchy. It was difficult to keep it "at speed" and it surged badly. The 990A I rode did the same thing.

Strangely, the best fueled bike was the 950 Super Enduro that was carburated.

And yet the mags complained about none of that in tests... but ripped the 1125 pre-production model apart for it.

OneSickPsycho · 01-18-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cutty72

And yet the mags complained about none of that in tests... but ripped the 1125 pre-production model apart for it.

I remember reading shit about poor fueling... However, it wasn't until like a year after the bike had been out...

JoJoYZF · 01-18-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

I remember reading shit about poor fueling... However, it wasn't until like a year after the bike had been out...

Same here. I never heard about that until it had been out for a while and most of the comments about the issues being fixed talk about the 1125cr.

FT BSTRD · 01-18-2009, 10:15 PM

It really depends on your perspective. I believe that much of the issues were Buell's fault. There WERE fueling issues.

The FZ1 had HORRIBLE fueling issues.

The issue isn't whether one company has issues or not. It's whether they deal quickly and effectively with those issues. Buell has. I believe KTM is working on it.

They hadn't gotten it sorted out by last October for the 2009 models.

It is a bit of a double standard. The most recent review of the 1125CR claimed it was "cramped". WTF? Did they have Andre the Giant testing?

The 1125 platform is one of the roomiest of sportbike models out right now.

It's just magazines. The writers carry their own biases onto the pages.

Cutty72 · 01-18-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

It really depends on your perspective. I believe that much of the issues were Buell's fault. There WERE fueling issues.

The FZ1 had HORRIBLE fueling issues.

The issue isn't whether one company has issues or not. It's whether they deal quickly and effectively with those issues. Buell has. I believe KTM is working on it.

They hadn't gotten it sorted out by last October for the 2009 models.

It is a bit of a double standard. The most recent review of the 1125CR claimed it was "cramped". WTF? Did they have Andre the Giant testing?

The 1125 platform is one of the roomiest of sportbike models out right now.

It's just magazines. The writers carry their own biases onto the pages.

Right.
Buell is definatly working on the probs.
My gripe is the mags. If it's a buell, they rip it apart. If it's any European or Jap bike, then they are just minor probs, but nothing major.

FT BSTRD · 01-18-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cutty72

Right.
Buell is definatly working on the probs.
My gripe is the mags. If it's a buell, they rip it apart. If it's any European or Jap bike, then they are just minor probs, but nothing major.

Yeah, but Buell doesn't do anything to help decrease the problems either.

Why the HELL they keep putting those shitty stock pads on bikes is beyond me. Put on Lyndalls from the factory and be done with it. The stock pads are horrible for feel. I think much of the bitching about the ZTL system is the pads used.

Why doesn't Buell set up the bikes per the rider. Instead they allow these monkeys to do the usual set up that they do for every other bike and wonder why the bike feels "sluggish" or "twitchy". Read a manual once in a while folks.

You only get one time to set a first impression. Buell seems to revel in blowing that opportunity EVERY TIME!

Cutty72 · 01-18-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

Yeah, but Buell doesn't do anything to help decrease the problems either.

Why the HELL they keep putting those shitty stock pads on bikes is beyond me. Put on Lyndalls from the factory and be done with it. The stock pads are horrible for feel. I think much of the bitching about the ZTL system is the pads used.

Why doesn't Buell set up the bikes per the rider. Instead they allow these monkeys to do the usual set up that they do for every other bike and wonder why the bike feels "sluggish" or "twitchy". Read a manual once in a while folks.

You only get one time to set a first impression. Buell seems to revel in blowing that opportunity EVERY TIME!

I don't think the pads are THAT bad... my experiences are limited however, newer R1's being the only repliracer bikes that I've been able to ride aggressively.
Though I will be getting something different when these wear out. Maybe then I will realize the diff.
As for the set up. Yes, the mags should do it. I know they do it on the Ducs and jap bikes.

Scot · 10-17-2009, 10:48 AM

It's a naked superhawk with higher end braking and suspension components. The one I rode was dodgy at lower RPM even with the updated flash. The local dealer here was blowing them out for 9k. IMO, it's a good bike for 9K. 12k, no.

01-18-2009, 09:09 PM	#1
FT BSTRD Tractor Driver Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Franklin, TN Moto: Buell XB12X Ulysses Posts: 1,007	We got to test ride several KTM's in Suches in October. The SuperDuke is a fantastic handling bike. It feels very similar to an XBSTT in its seating position and responsiveness. The brakes are great. The only complaint besides the price tag was the FI. It was very on off snatchy. It was difficult to keep it "at speed" and it surged badly. The 990A I rode did the same thing. Strangely, the best fueled bike was the 950 Super Enduro that was carburated. __________________ "I do get tired of reading,'my buddy is a racer and says the Buell will never work' I always want to say 'Who the FCK is your buddy and is he faster than Shawn Higbee?" --Erik Buell*

01-18-2009, 10:15 PM	#5
FT BSTRD Tractor Driver Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Franklin, TN Moto: Buell XB12X Ulysses Posts: 1,007	It really depends on your perspective. I believe that much of the issues were Buell's fault. There WERE fueling issues. The FZ1 had HORRIBLE fueling issues. The issue isn't whether one company has issues or not. It's whether they deal quickly and effectively with those issues. Buell has. I believe KTM is working on it. They hadn't gotten it sorted out by last October for the 2009 models. It is a bit of a double standard. The most recent review of the 1125CR claimed it was "cramped". WTF? Did they have Andre the Giant testing? The 1125 platform is one of the roomiest of sportbike models out right now. It's just magazines. The writers carry their own biases onto the pages. __________________ "I do get tired of reading,'my buddy is a racer and says the Buell will never work' I always want to say 'Who the FCK is your buddy and is he faster than Shawn Higbee?" --Erik Buell*

10-17-2009, 10:48 AM	#9
Scot Kneedragger Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Va Moto: varies Posts: 227	It's a naked superhawk with higher end braking and suspension components. The one I rode was dodgy at lower RPM even with the updated flash. The local dealer here was blowing them out for 9k. IMO, it's a good bike for 9K. 12k, no.