Does the influx of new riders worry you?

WildKat · 07-27-2008, 11:37 PM

I'll tell you what, everybody and their brother now seems to want a motorcycle or scooter. In my dept at work alone in the last 6 months, 4 people have gotten their bike licenses. Thankfully they've all taken the MSF beginner course so they are atleast starting out on the right foot. None of them have actually gotten bikes yet except one and she's still too scared to ride

With all the scooters and bikes out on the road and all the new riders who don't have a freekin clue about safe, defensive, riding I get worried because it's those tards out there riding in the wrong spot in the lane, not watching going through intersections, cutting off other drivers because they don't pay attention when passing, etc. that are making themselves easy targets for accidents. You know how it is out there, we all see it everyday but the problem is growing at an unbelievable rate now because gas prices are forcing everybody to think they should go out and get a bike when some of them probably don't have any business even thinking of being out on 2 wheels because they can't even drive a car safely. This aint like driving a car here newbs, and you can't just slam on the brakes at the last minute and think you aren't going to lay the bike down if you don't know what you're doing. I heard somebody the other day in the store talking about getting a scooter because it's easy to ride and everybody else is doing it.

That's the attitude that worries me; even being on a scooter should be taken seriously. I shutter to think that these people actually believe that cars will look out for them and that they'll be noticed pulling out of an intersection the same as they would be in a car. Riding a bike requires a defensive state of mind and always being alert for even the smallest detail..ok I'll shut up now but you see what Im getting at here...lol

To all those new riders that take being out on the road seriously, I totally commend you and I'm glad to see you're starting out properly and respecting the privilege of riding a motorcycle...and to all the goof balls out there who think they can just hop on a bike and do their thing please do me a favor and stay away from where I ride. Im not perfect, nor am I professing to be but I've been riding for 20 years now and there's no substitute for experience. The only way to get experience is to be safe, ride smart, do your homework when it comes to riding, and take it seriously but still have fun and enjoy it....and a little luck doesn't hurt either..LOL.

Mrs. Colleen · 07-27-2008, 11:44 PM

YES!!!

WildKat · 07-28-2008, 12:06 AM

Trust me I'm not trying to come off as some holier than thou biatch who thinks he's Mr. super rider do no wrong; nothing could be further from the truth. For seasoned riders of all types it's rough out there every day and you never know when some soccer mom in her Expedition yapping on her cell and yelling at the kids while putting on makeup is going to pull out in front of you. Or some old person who thinks, " they are on a motorcycle they'll stop for me" decides she wants to swerve at the last minute to make her hair appointment, or God knows any other of the million scenarios that can happen will rear their ugly heads and take us out. For those that are new it's even more difficult and compound that with those that are new and don't care to learn and you have a potential recipe for disaster.

Dave · 07-28-2008, 12:20 AM

to be honest im much more worried about the buttfucking hippies on bicycles. motherfuckers never follow traffic laws around here. more than once ive stopped for a red only to watch one zip right through or just last week some guy lead his KID across one of the busiest routes in town. and every day i see more of them

dReWpY · 07-28-2008, 12:39 AM

personally i think the ones that buy bikes for the gas crunch will be smarter then your average squid

Cutty72 · 07-28-2008, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by drewpy

personally i think the ones that buy bikes for the gas crunch will be smarter then your average squid

smarter, possibly. better trained/prepaired and more conciensious of their surroundings, not always. and lastly knowledgable about how to ride a motorcycle... not from what i've seen.

dReWpY · 07-28-2008, 01:09 AM

other then the msf what other training is there? time on the bike and miles under their belt... if they have the basics, i see nothing wrong with a bunch of new riders at least they are out on two wheels, i prolly wont ride with them, but every new rider has to start somewhere

the learning curve is steep and either they learn or they dont

BobTheBiker · 07-28-2008, 01:27 AM

Around here I'm not noticeing it yet. but HOPEFULLY they'll learn before they crash and be appropriately prepared to avoid situations that put them or us at risk.

MSF is a good beginning point, but the BRC teaches pretty much the bare essentials for parking lot riding, which is good, but not very helpful when a new rider NEEDS TO KNOW how to ride safely on the street. I believe the MSF course should be altered to include in the BRC some of the more important stuff about street riding.

dReWpY · 07-28-2008, 01:29 AM

thats just it they are new riders, if they had experiance they wouldnt be new... kinda like a rite of passage

OneSickPsycho · 07-28-2008, 01:57 AM

Not worried at all. More bikers mean more statistics, but more bikers also mean a louder collective voice.

07-27-2008, 11:37 PM	#1
WildKat It was better in the 80's Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central PA Moto: 2000 Kat 750 Posts: 80	Does the influx of new riders worry you? I'll tell you what, everybody and their brother now seems to want a motorcycle or scooter. In my dept at work alone in the last 6 months, 4 people have gotten their bike licenses. Thankfully they've all taken the MSF beginner course so they are atleast starting out on the right foot. None of them have actually gotten bikes yet except one and she's still too scared to ride With all the scooters and bikes out on the road and all the new riders who don't have a freekin clue about safe, defensive, riding I get worried because it's those tards out there riding in the wrong spot in the lane, not watching going through intersections, cutting off other drivers because they don't pay attention when passing, etc. that are making themselves easy targets for accidents. You know how it is out there, we all see it everyday but the problem is growing at an unbelievable rate now because gas prices are forcing everybody to think they should go out and get a bike when some of them probably don't have any business even thinking of being out on 2 wheels because they can't even drive a car safely. This aint like driving a car here newbs, and you can't just slam on the brakes at the last minute and think you aren't going to lay the bike down if you don't know what you're doing. I heard somebody the other day in the store talking about getting a scooter because it's easy to ride and everybody else is doing it. That's the attitude that worries me; even being on a scooter should be taken seriously. I shutter to think that these people actually believe that cars will look out for them and that they'll be noticed pulling out of an intersection the same as they would be in a car. Riding a bike requires a defensive state of mind and always being alert for even the smallest detail..ok I'll shut up now but you see what Im getting at here...lol To all those new riders that take being out on the road seriously, I totally commend you and I'm glad to see you're starting out properly and respecting the privilege of riding a motorcycle...and to all the goof balls out there who think they can just hop on a bike and do their thing please do me a favor and stay away from where I ride. Im not perfect, nor am I professing to be but I've been riding for 20 years now and there's no substitute for experience. The only way to get experience is to be safe, ride smart, do your homework when it comes to riding, and take it seriously but still have fun and enjoy it....and a little luck doesn't hurt either..LOL. __________________ *Don't worry I won't tell, but you just got passed by a Kat!* Last edited by WildKat; 07-27-2008 at 11:40 PM..

07-28-2008, 12:06 AM	#3
WildKat It was better in the 80's Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Central PA Moto: 2000 Kat 750 Posts: 80	Trust me I'm not trying to come off as some holier than thou biatch who thinks he's Mr. super rider do no wrong; nothing could be further from the truth. For seasoned riders of all types it's rough out there every day and you never know when some soccer mom in her Expedition yapping on her cell and yelling at the kids while putting on makeup is going to pull out in front of you. Or some old person who thinks, " they are on a motorcycle they'll stop for me" decides she wants to swerve at the last minute to make her hair appointment, or God knows any other of the million scenarios that can happen will rear their ugly heads and take us out. For those that are new it's even more difficult and compound that with those that are new and don't care to learn and you have a potential recipe for disaster. __________________ *Don't worry I won't tell, but you just got passed by a Kat!*

07-28-2008, 12:20 AM	#4
Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	to be honest im much more worried about the buttfucking hippies on bicycles. motherfuckers never follow traffic laws around here. more than once ive stopped for a red only to watch one zip right through or just last week some guy lead his KID across one of the busiest routes in town. and every day i see more of them __________________ TWF Post whore #6

07-28-2008, 01:27 AM	#8
BobTheBiker too much time on my hands Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: the northern district of god damn Moto: 01 ZX6R, looking for more now. Posts: 1,802	Around here I'm not noticeing it yet. but HOPEFULLY they'll learn before they crash and be appropriately prepared to avoid situations that put them or us at risk. MSF is a good beginning point, but the BRC teaches pretty much the bare essentials for parking lot riding, which is good, but not very helpful when a new rider NEEDS TO KNOW how to ride safely on the street. I believe the MSF course should be altered to include in the BRC some of the more important stuff about street riding.

07-28-2008, 01:57 AM	#10
OneSickPsycho Ride Like an Asshole Join Date: Feb 2008 Moto: nothing... Posts: 11,254	Not worried at all. More bikers mean more statistics, but more bikers also mean a louder collective voice.