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Tmall 10-08-2009 06:44 PM

Stupid socialized medicine!
 
Soooo.. Socialized medicine sucks eh? Tell me aboot it.

Canadian researchers decode breast cancer tumour DNA

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...007?hub=Health

HokieDNA01 10-08-2009 07:16 PM

Socialized medicine (treating patients) and socialized medical research are two different things. Medical research is mostly funded by government already in the USA (I used to work in a lab and most money came from the NIH).

karl_1052 10-08-2009 08:16 PM

Canadians:All about saving the boobies.:boobs:

Tmall 10-08-2009 09:05 PM

Blah blah blah..

Socialized medicine found it. Try and spin it anyway you like.


K THX bye.

pauldun170 10-08-2009 11:06 PM

Too bad nobody is proposing socialized medicine in the US.
Socialized medicine is what they have in the UK.

The concern here in the US is insurance and what type of model would best suit the people.

Smittie61984 10-08-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 276135)

The concern here in the US is insurance and what type of model would best suit the people.

Unregulate the piss out of it where the only government envolvement is enforcing the contracts the two or more private parties agree to.

101lifts2 10-09-2009 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tmall (Post 276106)
Blah blah blah..

Socialized medicine found it. Try and spin it anyway you like.


K THX bye.

Not exactly there skippy...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1315753/

"A major portion of the money used to fund the research came from the B.C. Cancer Foundation's Weekend to End Breast Cancer walk, as well as donations raised across the province during the annual breast-cancer walk over the past six years. Funding also came from other groups, including the Canadian Breast Cancer Foundation."

Researchers found it based on monies from donations. Socialized medicine didn't give squat. Alot of the drugs we have here in the U.S. are researched by our drug companies, paid for by private insurance; ultimately by us.

Nice try. lol

Tmall 10-09-2009 05:40 AM

Fact: a country with socialized medicine decoded the DNA sequence of breast cancer.

Fact: you all use Canada's medical system as an example of what is wrong with socialized health care.


Fact: donations are a form of socialism. :lol:
Fact: insurance company run medical system didn't do it.

Fact: you all would rather drive yourself off a cliff in a burning car than acknowledge the benefits of a socialized health system.


Fact: this is ultimately a good thing. Regardless of who discovered it.

OneSickPsycho 10-09-2009 05:47 AM

The Nazis taught us a lot of useful things about human anatomy... Fuck socialized medicine genocide is the way to go.

K THx bye

Papa_Complex 10-09-2009 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Tmall (Post 276180)
Fact: a country with socialized medicine decoded the DNA sequence of breast cancer.

Fact: you all use Canada's medical system as an example of what is wrong with socialized health care.


Fact: donations are a form of socialism. :lol:
Fact: insurance company run medical system didn't do it.

Fact: you all would rather drive yourself off a cliff in a burning car than acknowledge the benefits of a socialized health system.


Fact: this is ultimately a good thing. Regardless of who discovered it.

Technically speaking we don't have a socialized medical system, we have a single payer medical system. The difference escapes most, but it means that we actually have privately run hospitals.

Tmall 10-09-2009 07:37 AM

My taxes pay for my health care. Sounds like socialized medicine to me...

I know you'll likely be able to break it down even further. Likely into a different category of socialism. But, socialism as a title works for me.

Trip 10-09-2009 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tmall (Post 276180)
Fact: donations are a form of socialism. :lol:

Donations are voluntary, not socialism.

karl_1052 10-09-2009 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 276181)
The Nazis taught us a lot of useful things about human anatomy... Fuck socialized medicine genocide is the way to go.

K THx bye

Godwin FTW!

Papa_Complex 10-09-2009 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 276211)
Donations are voluntary, not socialism.

Saying that socialized medicine has resulted in this breakthrough may be inaccurate, but it still stands that this is the sort of thing that the detractors to universal health care say would never happen under such a system. It's just another in a long line of medical discoveries for Canadians.

*EDIT* It took me about ten seconds to find that the B.C. Cancer Agency is an agency of the British Columbia Health Services Agency, making it part of the government health care network.

Trip 10-09-2009 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 276220)
Saying that socialized medicine has resulted in this breakthrough may be inaccurate, but it still stands that this is the sort of thing that the detractors to universal health care say would never happen under such a system. It's just another in a long line of medical discoveries for Canadians.

*EDIT* It took me about ten seconds to find that the B.C. Cancer Agency is an agency of the British Columbia Health Services Agency, making it part of the government health care network.

Any person can find a way to do something great under any government system. I wouldn't be one to say Canadians couldn't do something like this under their system.

All I said was donations weren't socialism.

pauldun170 10-09-2009 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 276186)
Technically speaking we don't have a socialized medical system, we have a single payer medical system. The difference escapes most, but it means that we actually have privately run hospitals.

There is a huge difference

Papa_Complex 10-09-2009 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 276226)
There is a huge difference

As much as the difference between being a liberal and being a socialist, which is a distinction that also escapes far too many people.

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 276223)
Any person can find a way to do something great under any government system. I wouldn't be one to say Canadians couldn't do something like this under their system.

All I said was donations weren't socialism.

No, they aren't. They're charity. That can exist under any nominally free system. The discovery was still made by a government agency though, using government resources in addition to those donations.

Trip 10-09-2009 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 276236)
As much as the difference between being a liberal and being a socialist, which is a distinction that also escapes far too many people.

socialist

Papa_Complex 10-09-2009 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 276237)
socialist

For those times when 'liberal' isn't enough of an insult anymore :lol:

Trip 10-09-2009 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 276238)
For those times when 'liberal' isn't enough of an insult anymore :lol:

Oh, don't make me call you a commie. :lol:


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