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L8 Braker 11-09-2009 08:39 PM

Rossi to Ducati?
 
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Dave 11-09-2009 08:51 PM

could be interesting

Mr Lefty 11-09-2009 08:54 PM

Rossi seems to play every thing close to his chest... so it's odd he'd put this out there like that...

fasternyou929 11-09-2009 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by eBBs15 (Post 289858)
Rossi seems to play every thing close to his chest... so it's odd he'd put this out there like that...

Rossi's been less than subtle with his unhappiness that Yamaha has put Lorenzo, his biggest competition, on a bike that gets all the development he generates. Rossi believes there should only be one star rider on a team.

Out of loyalty to Yamaha, this may be his one solid warning before he hits the road.

ontwo 11-09-2009 09:21 PM

I wanna see him on the Duc. Fuck Jorge

tached1000rr 11-09-2009 09:24 PM

Ducati is serious about their racing that's sure, have a cult-like customer following so I can see the allure, BUT Stoner is still there and it would seem the same scenario would exist between Rossi and Stoner, that he faces now with Lorenzo.

If Rossi, wants to develop something get his ass on the Kawasaki:lol:

pdog 11-09-2009 09:35 PM

It's just negotiation. In the end, it's all about the benjamins.

Dave 11-09-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tached1000rr (Post 289875)
Ducati is serious about their racing that's sure, have a cult-like customer following so I can see the allure, BUT Stoner is still there and it would seem the same scenario would exist between Rossi and Stoner, that he faces now with Lorenzo.

If Rossi, wants to develop something get his ass on the Kawasaki:lol:

except kawi is out and hayate are moving on...

tached1000rr 11-09-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 289931)
except kawi is out and hayate are moving on...

which sucks:td:

Dave 11-09-2009 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tached1000rr (Post 289933)
which sucks:td:

i agree, but im curious to see what paul bird can do with factory backing and decent riders, and if the rumors about the 2011 10r are true...

derf 11-10-2009 12:40 AM

I was thionking the same thing, this is advanced negotiating tactics, making his disspleasure with Yamaha team setup known to negotiate a few extra dollars.

As far as Yamaha is concerned, who do they really want? I think Rossi does have the bigger name, and is an overall more well rounded rider capable of placing n a more consistat basis, even Lorenzo might be faster hes not as good as Rossi, nor does he have as big of a name

lauralynne 11-10-2009 02:18 AM

Rossi has always talked about his goal to ride for every mfr. This isn't surprising

Dave 11-10-2009 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by derf (Post 289978)
I was thionking the same thing, this is advanced negotiating tactics, making his disspleasure with Yamaha team setup known to negotiate a few extra dollars.

As far as Yamaha is concerned, who do they really want? I think Rossi does have the bigger name, and is an overall more well rounded rider capable of placing n a more consistat basis, even Lorenzo might be faster hes not as good as Rossi, nor does he have as big of a name

yeah but if they win with lorenzo it looks like the bike did it not rossi

Dave 11-10-2009 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lauralynne (Post 290001)
Rossi has always talked about his goal to ride for every mfr. This isn't surprising

itd make more sense for him to bump to suzuki then, that gsv-r aint gonna develop itself

karl_1052 11-10-2009 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 290006)
yeah but if they win with lorenzo it looks like the bike did it not rossi

Yeah, but Lorenzo is winning on the bike that Rossi built. How would he do without Rossi/Burgess as lead developers.
I think Lorenzo has gotten on a gravy train, and he should be careful about how he treats the conductors.

Rider 11-10-2009 08:47 AM

While I think Rossi is by far the best rider, Lorenzo IS the future of Yamaha. How many years does Rossi have left in MotoGP? Let Rossi go, move Spies in to his spot.

pdog 11-10-2009 09:22 AM

Troy Bayliss won the WSBK championship at 38 last year. Rossi is 30. He will have a ride in MotoGP as long as he wants to ride.

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Originally Posted by Rider (Post 290053)
While I think Rossi is by far the best rider, Lorenzo IS the future of Yamaha. How many years does Rossi have left in MotoGP? Let Rossi go, move Spies in to his spot.


z06boy 11-10-2009 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rider (Post 290053)
While I think Rossi is by far the best rider, Lorenzo IS the future of Yamaha. How many years does Rossi have left in MotoGP? Let Rossi go, move Spies in to his spot.

I was gonna say drop Lorenzo...add Spies but Rossi wouldn't like that either if Spies starts rocking.

marko138 11-10-2009 09:26 AM

What about the rumors that Rossi will leave GP all together when his contract is up. It's no secret he wants to race 4 wheels.

z06boy 11-10-2009 09:31 AM

http://www.auto123.com/ArtImages/976...ssi-inline.jpg

marko138 11-10-2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by z06boy (Post 290088)

Exactly.

karl_1052 11-10-2009 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by pdog (Post 290080)
Troy Bayliss won the WSBK championship at 38 last year. Rossi is 30. He will have a ride in MotoGP as long as he wants to ride.

Mladin is 37.
Duhamel is 41.
Crevier is 45.

No reason why he can't continue for another couple of years.

marko138 11-10-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 290123)
Mladin is 37.
Duhamel is 41.
Crevier is 45.

No reason why he can't continue for another couple of years.

But why? What does he have left to prove? Auto racing presents him with a new set of challenges.

Speedracer42 11-10-2009 10:25 AM

Rossi has said recently that the car thing is out for a while. He is still focused on two wheels, and I think he would love to retire on an Italian bike. That is a big part of the draw to ride the Duc

marko138 11-10-2009 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedracer42 (Post 290128)
Rossi has said recently that the car thing is out for a while. He is still focused on two wheels, and I think he would love to retire on an Italian bike. That is a big part of the draw to ride the Duc

Thats an interesting thought.

pdog 11-10-2009 10:35 AM

He's been dragging that rumor out for the last 6 years. Would you trade worldwide fame and $30m a year to be a contender in DTM? There's no way he would get an F1 ride - he's fast but he hasn't proven he's one of the top 20 fastest drivers in the world.

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 290082)
What about the rumors that Rossi will leave GP all together when his contract is up. It's no secret he wants to race 4 wheels.


shmike 11-10-2009 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 290126)
But why? What does he have left to prove? Auto racing presents him with a new set of challenges.

123 wins.

He'd need AT LEAST 2 more seasons and realistically more like 4 to reach that number.

If he decides he doesn't care about that number, he has nothing left to prove.

karl_1052 11-10-2009 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 290126)
But why? What does he have left to prove? Auto racing presents him with a new set of challenges.

Nothing to prove, but he can put his accomplishments so far out of reach, it will long after he has died that they will be broken(if ever).

marko138 11-10-2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 290147)
Nothing to prove, but he can put his accomplishments so far out of reach, it will long after he has died that they will be broken(if ever).

Very true. But realistically will anyone touch his stats even at this point?

karl_1052 11-10-2009 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 290149)
Very true. But realistically will anyone touch his stats even at this point?

That is what they probably thought about Ago 40 years ago.;)

Tmall 11-10-2009 11:23 AM

There are "records" that he has that will never be reached.

But, he doesn't have all of them, and there will definitely be somebody to come along to challenge his legacy, but the longer he's winning, the longer it will be till that happens.

marko138 11-10-2009 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 290160)
That is what they probably thought about Ago 40 years ago.;)

Good point.

fnfalman 11-13-2009 09:10 PM

Rossi will never surpass Ago unless he wins at Isle of Man.

Mr Lefty 11-15-2009 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fnfalman (Post 291777)
Rossi will never surpass Ago unless he wins at Isle of Man.

but then you'll say that he didn't win it as a GP and there for had inferior riders... blah blah blah...

fnfalman 11-16-2009 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eBBs15 (Post 292101)
but then you'll say that he didn't win it as a GP and there for had inferior riders... blah blah blah...

That's also true because they don't run the IOM as part of a GP race circuit any more.

Even Rossi himself after taking a demo ride around the IOM said that he couldn't figure out how these guys would haul ass on that course citing the dangers involved.

fasternyou929 11-16-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by eBBs15 (Post 292101)
but then you'll say that he didn't win it as a GP and there for had inferior riders... blah blah blah...

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Originally Posted by fnfalman (Post 292464)
That's also true because they don't run the IOM as part of a GP race circuit any more.

I disagree. Because the circuit is not run by GP anymore, it's only run by racers that eat, breathe, and sleep IOM.

In the days it was a GP circuit, it was one of many courses on the schedule. To the people racing it now, it's the only course. I'd be willing to bet they get around it better than any GP rider that toyed with the course for a few days per year.

karl_1052 11-16-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fasternyou929 (Post 292477)
I disagree. Because the circuit is not run by GP anymore, it's only run by racers that eat, breathe, and sleep IOM.

In the days it was a GP circuit, it was one of many courses on the schedule. To the people racing it now, it's the only course. I'd be willing to bet they get around it better than any GP rider that toyed with the course for a few days per year.

I would also bet that those IOM racers would not be anywhere as good as Rossi on a MotoGP track. But Rossi is still not as good, because he never raced IOM.
:lol

Apoc 11-25-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rider (Post 290053)
While I think Rossi is by far the best rider, Lorenzo IS the future of Yamaha. How many years does Rossi have left in MotoGP? Let Rossi go, move Spies in to his spot.


Drop a multi-time world champ, with 5-6 GREAT years left in him, and make a kid, who's an awesome rider but has never been champ, your #1. Just doesn't make sense. Its not like Rossi is washed up and ready to be put out to pasture, HE WON THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP THE LAST TWO YEARS.

If some of you had brains, you'd be dangerous weapons.

L8 Braker 11-25-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoc (Post 297694)
Drop a multi-time world champ, with 5-6 GREAT years left in him, and make a kid, who's an awesome rider but has never been champ, your #1.

Well, technically, Lorenzo is a 2 time world champ, just in the 250 class...Of course, Pedrosa also has 2 world titles, Melandri has 1, Capirossi has 1, and Biaggi had 4...

So in conclusion, I agree with your choice to stick with Rossi...He whooped all their asses so far and will continue to do so for years to come...

Particle Man 11-25-2009 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by z06boy (Post 290088)

I'd be curious to see where that goes

Apoc 11-25-2009 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 297769)
I'd be curious to see where that goes

nowhere, he's been playing with other forms of racing for years now... He;s just playing. Rossi will never be an F1 driver.


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