Cameras are the new guns
 

Great article.

Scary that the courts seem to be backing the cops.

Scary but not surprising.

That would be like a normal person stealing on surveillance then trying to sue the store for unlawfully recording them!

Fucking pigs.
No wonder NO ONE respects them...Their ABOVE da'law

I didnt realize the dude that got shot was in Ohio....yeah our cops are gun happy.
Seriously they pulled their guns on CHILDREN for skating
*no signs posted for trespassing, loitering or skating*

Wow... just WOW!

Reminds me of something I saw on another forum this morning...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jftEaxFJNWg

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...tographer.html

June 3, 2010 | 6:45 am
Los Angeles police have opened an investigation into a confrontation between a photographer and a Hollywood Division officer after video of the incident was posted this week on YouTube, sources familiar with the case said.

The sources told The Times that the investigation is unrelated to another internal affairs probe launched this week in connection with a clash between four Hollywood officers and bicyclists, also caught on video. They said the department opened an investigation Wednesday after being informed about the video. The sources spoke on the condition of anonymity because the case is ongoing.

The footage was taken Feb. 21 and posted Tuesday on YouTube. It lasts over five minutes.

It opens with two LAPD officers conducting a traffic stop. At first, the exchange is cordial. An officer asks if everything is OK. The officer also asks if the man shooting the video knows the woman being stopped. The photographer says he does not know the woman and continues to shoot video.


The officer tells the photographer that he is making him nervous and asks him to "move along." The photographer tells the officer that the sidewalk is open to the public and that it's not against the law to shoot video. When the photographer continues to say he can take video on a public street, the officer begins to get angry and tells him he can't take a picture of him.

"I am a citizen of this country," the officer says. "I was in the Marine Corps a few years getting shot for you, you can move along. ... Start moving." The photographer asks for the officer's badge number. The officer tells him to "go ahead, saying he spent "two years in the desert, and I have to hear from your fruitcake ass."

The officer tells the man he is making a legal stop and asks the photographer for his identification and that the grounds for the stop is "taking a picture of me." The officer then tells the photographer, who is being detained and appears to be seated on the sidewalk, that he has a record of parking violations, which the man says he had paid.

They continue to argue about the law, the officer telling the man that he does not have a right to take a picture and the man saying it's not against the law to take photographs. He asks for the officer's card, and a short time later, the video ends.

-- Andrew Blankstein

Now I know that if you're in a public place there is no expectation of privacy.. But if you ask not to be photo/video graphed then cop or normal citizen it should then be against the law to continue to do so.. Correct?

Can you ask them not to video tape you on a traffic stop or with the speed/red light cameras? Of course not.

Cops are above the law.. Ever see a cop do the speed limit?

Ever see a cop driving while talking on a cell phone?

Now they want to tape you when you can't tape them..

Seems like business as usual.

I'm not real happy with some of the decisions courts have made recently.

If you can't deal with the people you serve then find another fucking line of work. asshole.

Don't do nothin' wrong and you won't have nothin' to worry about.

yawn.

Open a little wider and I'll give you something more entertaining. Giggidy.

The interview and reference check for cops should be as thorough as the CIA's, IMO.

Except replace the time spent checking political & terrorist ties, and put it towards checking his emotional control, maturity, communication and leadership skills.

I'm thinking another step that may be beneficial to the public would be to set a higher age limit on becoming a cop, or placing more restrictions on younger cops.

Maybe you can't join the force until you're 28 and can't roll alone until you have a couple years experience. Something to that effect anyway.

Perhaps, but a lot of 22 year olds are more mature than 28 year olds. Thus the need for extensive interviews & reference checks. Maybe some role playing too. And more credit given to leadership experience, extraciricular activities, and public-facing jobs. Not just "yo I got a criminal justice degree and spit some game in my interview"

We're getting a lot of vets on the force. They have leadership experience, maturity, extraciricular activities and many have done public facing jobs (In Iraq and Afghanistan)
I hate to say this but combat vets might not make good police officers.
A lot Iraq and Afghnaistan vets are getting preferential treatment during hiring season and I don't think a lot of em should be there. The atitudes and training are not appropriate for police officer in this country.

I think that if you integrate them slowly and NOT in batches you'll be fine as long as you have good veteran officers who can acclimate them to the job (this ain't Iraq and these aint Iraqis...you gotta take it down a notch and realize these are you neighbors).
If you get a group in and they are being mentored by other combat vets then they just resort to old habits and training.

and take those fucking sunglasses off...

Cops are not normal citizens. They have the authority to detain you, etc. With that authority comes the expectation that they have less rights in other areas, namely privacy while on duty.

Authority + Secrecy = Abuse

I actually think we could turn your phrase around on the cops this time.

Problem being recorded? Don't do anything wrong and you don't have anything to worry about. :idk:

Also: http://www.dailyhaha.com/_soundboard...Soundboard.htm

Another bullshit law....the only reason for this law passing is to prevent lawsuits, which for now, most states cannot afford.

It is all about money (devil).

I keep thinking of Major Payne when he applied to become a cop and did some role playing.

In the video above the photographer had every right to record those cops. But no doubt he was looking for trouble and probably needs an ass stomping once a week that his father (or lack of) deprived him of as a kid.

Now if the woman in the car was holding a camera to the cops face, I'd probably be okay with the cop telling her to put the camera down (not off but down at least). Not really so sure how I feel on that one.

I'm confused on this. Last year I went to Chicago with my GF for New Years and did some video recording and took pictures. Of course I got pictures of other people. Does that mean I have to have permission from all of the people in the pictures if I wanted to post the pictures? Or was that for court purposes only?