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Smittie61984 07-01-2010 01:04 PM

Business not doing well? Get a white friend
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_629973.html

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To some, it's known as "White Guy Window Dressing." Others call it "The Token White Guy Gig" or even a "Face Job."

These are terms used to describe a recently established practice employed by Chinese firms, who are willing to pay high prices for fair-skinned expatriates to act as faux employees and white-collar business partners -- all in an effort to impress other area businesses.

According to a blitz of news reports, the practice works as a complex, if bogus, promotional tool. To the Chinese public, the number of foreigners a company has is believed to have a direct correlation to its level of prestige, money and authority -- which, in turn, increases their chances of securing additional business. In an increasingly globalized Chinese workforce, an office's "diversity," real or not, makes it seem more international.

The practice, sources say, is rooted in the Chinese concept of "face," or the positive public expression of one's identity. As such, the "Token White Guy Gigs" are usually secured by Caucasian expats, including actors and English teachers, all hungry for work. Once "hired," many of the expats say they aren't given much instruction other than to sit and appear as though they understand as little Chinese as possible. Yet if the opportunity for a public event such as a party arose, they were given the red-carpet treatment, including cocktails
and police escorts.

While it may sound like nice work if you can get it, most Chinese employment experts believe it will be little more than a passing fad.

Dave 07-01-2010 01:31 PM

Sign me up

Particle Man 07-01-2010 01:34 PM

aren't there a bunch of movies about this concept?

defector 07-01-2010 01:55 PM

When the business stats tanking, does whitey have to kill himself?

smileyman 07-01-2010 02:00 PM

Oh yeah, I am definitely pale enough to pull this off. I even like eating at The Panda. Go Peoples Republic!

Trip 07-01-2010 02:13 PM

awesome, i want in

Mudpuppy 07-01-2010 02:30 PM

definitely would do this gig..

Smittie61984 07-01-2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by defector (Post 388895)
When the business stats tanking, does whitey have to kill himself?

What happens everytime a white person doesn't want to do a job. They hire Mexicans.

goof2 07-01-2010 03:00 PM

It reminds me of stories I have heard (all 2nd, 3rd, or more hand stories, nothing verifiable so don't take it as fact) of small businesses that want to contract with the government getting a minority or a woman as a front for the company. They then get disadvantaged small business status and priority for government business.

Trip 07-01-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by goof2 (Post 388929)
It reminds me of stories I have heard (all 2nd, 3rd, or more hand stories, nothing verifiable so don't take it as fact) of small businesses that want to contract with the government getting a minority or a woman as a front for the company. They then get disadvantaged small business status and priority for government business.

I can first hand verify it. It is why I have the shittiest lunch in the world most days.

Homeslice 07-01-2010 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984 (Post 388919)
What happens everytime a white person doesn't want to do a job. They hire Mexicans.

Or rather, what happens when American companies don't want to pay real wages anymore.

101lifts2 07-01-2010 05:16 PM

This just goes to prove that the white man is viewed as the superior race...even amongst the other races. lol

Smittie61984 07-01-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 389018)
This just goes to prove that the white man is viewed as the superior race...even amongst the other races. lol

Odd considering when I hear "Asian" the first thing this honky thinks of is "Engineer" or "Accountant" along with "Doctor" though it seems the doctor title is going to the Indians now.

I wonder if they hire black people for security?

pauldun170 07-01-2010 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by goof2 (Post 388929)
It reminds me of stories I have heard (all 2nd, 3rd, or more hand stories, nothing verifiable so don't take it as fact) of small businesses that want to contract with the government getting a minority or a woman as a front for the company. They then get disadvantaged small business status and priority for government business.

http://www.mbda.gov/?section_id=3&bu...ll=entire_page

examples
http://www.nylovesmwbe.ny.gov/
http://www.thinkkentucky.com/smbd/SMBB.aspx
http://www.mississippi.org/index.php?id=5
http://gss.omb.delaware.gov/omwbe/index.shtml

goof2 07-02-2010 10:56 AM

I know disadvantaged status exists for minority and woman owned businesses. What I am not sure of is fraudulently putting a woman or minority as the face of the company to qualify for that status. In order to be certified as minority or woman owned at least 51% of a company must be owned by a woman or minority and the management and daily operations must be controlled by them. They are certified by the government so it probably isn't too difficult to fool them but that is where speculation enters in to it.

pauldun170 07-02-2010 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by goof2 (Post 389325)
I know disadvantaged status exists for minority and woman owned businesses. What I am not sure of is fraudulently putting a woman or minority as the face of the company to qualify for that status. In order to be certified as minority or woman owned at least 51% of a company must be owned by a woman or minority and the management and daily operations must be controlled by them. They are certified by the government so it probably isn't too difficult to fool them but that is where speculation enters in to it.


Are you claiming conspiracy?

goof2 07-02-2010 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 389393)
Are you claiming conspiracy?

Nope, just rumor. Even if I had evidence to back it up it would still be fraud on the part of the businesses and incompetency on the part of the government, not conspiracy.

pauldun170 07-02-2010 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by goof2 (Post 389496)
Nope, just rumor. Even if I had evidence to back it up it would still be fraud on the part of the businesses and incompetency on the part of the government, not conspiracy.

Well...its not a rumor. I know a few small business owners who have their wife listed as head honcho for the lulz value.

<Homeslice on>
Typically a white small business owner in putting their wife on all the paperwork
<Homeslice off>

The awesome part is that with the big push for some gov agencies to reduce headcounts, it makes even harder for to investigate as more folks are stuck under heaps of paperwork.


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