chicago tightens gun control
 

Mayor Daley lays out strict gun rules for Chicago

CHICAGO – With the city's gun ban certain to be overturned, Mayor Richard Daley on Thursday introduced what city officials say is the strictest handgun ordinance in the United States.

The measure, which draws from ordinances around the country, would ban gun shops in Chicago and prohibit gun owners from stepping outside their homes, even onto their porches or garages, with a handgun.

Daley announced his ordinance at a park on the city's South Side three days after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Americans have a right to own a gun for self-defense anywhere they live. The City Council is expected to vote on it Friday.

"As long as I'm mayor, we will never give up or give in to gun violence that continues to threaten every part of our nation, including Chicago," said Daley, who was flanked by activists, city officials and the parents of a teenager whose son was shot and killed on a city bus while shielding a friend.

The ordinance, which Daley urged the City Council to pass, also would :

• Limit the number of handguns residents can register to one per month and prohibit residents from having more than one handgun in operating order at any given time.

• Require residents in homes with children to keep them in lock boxes or equipped with trigger locks.

• Require prospective gun owners to take a four-hour class and one-hour training at a gun range. They would have to leave the city for training because Chicago prohibits new gun ranges and limits the use of existing ranges to police officers. Those restrictions were similar to those in an ordinance passed in Washington, D.C., after the high court struck down its ban two years ago.

• Prohibit people from owning a gun if they were convicted of a violent crime, domestic violence or two or more convictions for driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs. Residents convicted of a gun offense would have to register with the police department.

• Calls for the police department to maintain a registry of every handgun owner in the city, with the names and addresses to be made available to police officers, firefighters and other emergency responders.

Those who already have handguns in the city — which has been illegal since the city's ban was approved 28 years ago — would have 90 days to register those weapons, according to the proposed ordinance.

Residents convicted of violating the city's ordinance can face a fine up to $5,000 and be locked up for as long as 90 days for a first offense and a fine of up to $10,000 and as long as six months behind bars for subsequent convictions.

"We've gone farther than anyone else ever has," said Corporation Counsel Mara Georges.

Still, the mayor, whose office is trying to craft an ordinance that will withstand legal challenges, had to back off some provisions he'd hoped to include, including requiring gun owners to insure their weapons and restricting each resident to one handgun.

Georges said it would be expensive for homeowners to include guns on their homeowners' and renters' insurance policies, so such a requirement could be seen as being discriminatory to the city's poorer residents. Limiting the number of handguns could be seen as discriminatory to people who owned weapons before the city's ban went into effect in 1982 or before they moved into the city.

"We can limit the place in which those handguns can be located," she said, before adding a not-so-veiled swipe at the court: "For instance, the Supreme court does not want them coming into the courthouse."

Still, Daley indicated that no matter what was included in the ordinance, he expects legal challenges.

"Everybody has a right to sue," he said.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100701/...hicago_gun_ban

I thought daley was convicted of possesion of cocaine?

Wait... so they are tightening the law by elminating a 28 year old ban? Did I read that correctly?

The supremem court overturned the ban, chicago is doing their best to do gun control without banning guns

The local Sheriff needs to go in and arrest Mayor Daley and all those involved in introducing this type of legislation, that clearly is an attempt to ignore the Supreme Court's ruling. Now that the ruling has been made, they need to give up on it, or be considered traitors to America and properly executed.

I love how one of their arguments is that a kid was shot while shielding a friend on a city bus. If Chicago residents were allowed to be armed, someone on that bus probably would have had a gun and may very well have shot the armed thug. Chicago can keep their residents from having guns, but they can't keep the criminals in the city from having guns. Lovely.

They ignore simple logic, piles of individual cases, and copious amounts of statistical data that proves their side is wrong... all for the sake of an emotional ideology that gives power to the criminals and to the government.

When I left the tourist area of Chicago the other week (tourist area=heavily patroled by armed cops) and entered the "real" Chicago, I've never felt so unsafe in my life as I did there. And I've been in some very shitty parts of Atlanta (unarmed there too).

The only thing that keeps Chicago afloat is their name. Other than that there is no other reason to be there or do business with Chicago. I'd rather be in Milwaukee if I had to be in that part of the country.

I'd also pay $100 to watch Daley walk through his gun free city at night by himself with no body guards (or guns) or cops. Fucking tool.

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Oh, so you mean they're just like my ex and all her irrational, emotional arguments as to why she should have my daughter more than I have her? That bitch has no concept of logic or reasoning. Jack Nicholson's character in "As Good As It Gets" was spot on with his comment as to how he writes women so well.

"First, I start with a man, then take away all reason and accountability"...describes my ex's thinking ability to a T.

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Daley is an idiot, as is every Chicago or Detroit politician since I've been alive.

what a shocker - left wing fascist central fucking with the 2nd amendment..

it passed

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_chicago_gun_laws

Chicago approves tough new handgun restrictions

If I was a career criminal I'd be taking a plane for Chi-town.

and thats the problem, they limit guns, so guns find a different way to get into the hands of criminals, while law abiding folks get screwed

I've lived in Chicago for 22 years.....Dailey is a crook himself. In fact the whole Chicago political system is crooked (not to mention the Chicago cops).

Fucking Democrats.

[threadjack]wasn't Obama raised on the Chicago political system? [/threadjack]

I just love ignorant comments like this from people who clearly have no concept of logic or reason...from the article:

Some residents applauded the vote.

"There's just too much killing going on (and) we need protection," said Mary Fitts, a retiree who came from her home on the South Side to watch the vote. "You can't even sit on your front porch."...

Maybe if people could sit on their front porch with a gun, they would have the protection they need. They don't even need to sit on the front porch with a gun, but if they had the ability to do so, maybe there wouldn't be so much killing going on. And if Chicago's 28 year gun ban was so effective, why is there so much killing going on?

Fucking idiots.

It's not about "safety". It's about control. If you control the law abiding citizens and do whatever you want to the crimminals, you have 100% control of the people.

If you went just outside the loop, you weren't in the "real" Chicago. You were in the projects.

This may come as a big shock to you, but most cities have them and none of them are nice places to be.

I lived in Chicago for 6 years and if it weren't for the long cold winters, I still would.

Where abouts?

I Love my country but fear my government.
 

:rant:I Love my country but fear my government. This legislature only further reinforces this idealogy.

I can't see how keeping the law abiding citizens from be able to freely acquire, maintain and carry guns will help keep the gun crimes down. It was said earlier that the 28 yr ban didn't stop that kid from being shot on the bus. If a crook wants a gun, he WILL GET A F'IN GUN. But the law abiding citizen who if was carrying concealed saw said criminal pull his illegally obtained weapon out and threaten the life of another citizen, pulled his weapon and splattered the brain pan all over the wall. That might send a message to other criminals perhaps we don't want to pull a gun here as we may actually get shot by some one who actually gives a shit about this city.

As for the keeping only one operational weapon in the house; that is just rediculous. I am gonna buy a gun and basically break it down and make it not work any more. FUCK YOU.

I like the class time and the range time part of the law. OK. so when I am done with said class I can carry concealed? NOPE, FUCKED AGAIN.

A house with guns and children have to be maintained in lockboxes or trigger locks. I have one word to argue this one with - EDUCATION!!!! IF you educate your children and tell them what the weapon is capable of, they will understand the consequences better. Next, take them to the range and let them shoot it. Take the mystery out of it and they will not be tempted. My daughter shot my glock .40 when she was 5 years old and to this day my wife and I leave our LOADED pistols on the coffee table or on our bedside tables and the kids never even look at them any more than they would the daily newspaper.

There is only one thing that can be called gun control; proper gun fundamentals!!! Steady breathing, sight picture, trigger squeeze, rinse and mother F'in repeat.

I hate that lieberals think that making it harder for the average guy is gonna keep gun crimes down. It was brought up to my shift at work tonight that the single most important factor in what a person decides to do, whether right or wrong is consequence. If something will get me immediate dead, ie getting shot by a concealled weapon carrying citizen, then I wont do said action. But, if I can commit the crime and then deal with the slow ass courts and if my lawyer is good enough, I will have what I want and only have to give up 6 months of my time in prison for it, shit its worth it.

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I bounced around the west 'burbs: Addison, Carol Stream, Naperville, and Woodrige between '96 and '02. You?

^^^^South...Orland Park.

Nice to see the govt doing what they can to give the criminals and thugs a hand.

exactly.. don't forget the illegal aliens - oh wait "undocumented citizens".. over a million gang bangers and growing every day.. the cartel buttfucks this country any chance they get and we say thank you sir may i have another..