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tommymac 05-17-2011 03:46 PM

Guess he can start on whoppers now
 
Guys going to eat his 25,000andth big mac

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...igmac0515.html

101lifts2 05-17-2011 04:01 PM

I can hear the "well he didn't get fat" crowd now....uh yeah when you only eat 2 big macs a day, you are probably in a caloric deficit. They guy would have been dead if he was my lifting plan eating 2 macs a day. lol

tommymac 05-17-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 470439)
I can hear the "well he didn't get fat" crowd now....uh yeah when you only eat 2 big macs a day, you are probably in a caloric deficit. They guy would have been dead if he was my lifting plan eating 2 macs a day. lol

How many calories you taking in for training.

shmike 05-17-2011 04:07 PM

Was that the guy near the end of SuperSize Me?

Trip 05-17-2011 04:10 PM

yeah

Dave 05-17-2011 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tommymac (Post 470440)
How many calories you taking in for training.

Lol I've been surviving on 1500 a day or less. Trying to get to 180

derf 05-17-2011 06:07 PM

This story is disgusting.

Particle Man 05-17-2011 06:11 PM

I am gonna get the shits just thinking about that...

Gas Man 05-17-2011 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by shmike (Post 470441)
Was that the guy near the end of SuperSize Me?

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 470443)
yeah

Picture?

shmike 05-17-2011 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 470530)
Picture?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HWU3wX2cDL...enthusiast.jpg

Gas Man 05-17-2011 09:51 PM

Freak! Looks like a 45yr old version of Trip.

Fleck750 05-18-2011 12:21 AM

Kinda looks like John Lennon.

the chi 05-18-2011 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 470543)
Freak! Looks like a 45yr old version of Trip.


Holy crap, you're right!! Say no to mutton chops Trip!! And Lennon glasses!!

Dave, how can you eat only 1500 calories a day? You use about 1400 just getting up and working through the day. Thats telling your body you're starving and will make it retain fat instead of burning it.

Dave 05-18-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by the chi (Post 470610)
Holy crap, you're right!! Say no to mutton chops Trip!! And Lennon glasses!!

Dave, how can you eat only 1500 calories a day? You use about 1400 just getting up and working through the day. Thats telling your body you're starving and will make it retain fat instead of burning it.

nope thats telling it to use up the fat its stored all over the place. I have no loss in energy and im thinner and happier than ive been in years.

the chi 05-18-2011 10:16 AM

Mmmmhmmm. You realize that once you have fat cells they don't ever go away right? I'm not going into specifics but while right now you may be thinner, etc in the long run you are doing more harm than good...

Trip 05-18-2011 10:35 AM

No bowl cuts or mutton chops for me.

Dave 05-18-2011 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by the chi (Post 470624)
Mmmmhmmm. You realize that once you have fat cells they don't ever go away right? I'm not going into specifics but while right now you may be thinner, etc in the long run you are doing more harm than good...

Doesn't matter to me in the slightest

Apoc 05-18-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 470664)
Doesn't matter to me in the slightest

It will when your body (organs, brain, nervous system, digestive system) stop working and responding the way they should.

You need a proper diet and exercise to lose weight and be healthy, period. Skinny does not equal healthy, and if you keep trying to subsist on an unhealthy calory deficit, your going to crash hard. Not to mention that Caroline is 100% right, your body will stop burning far, and start storing it, and it will happen very soon. Add that to the fact that you may be skinnier, but its because your mostly burning muscle, as your body wont burn fat when your not eating properly. So sure, you may end up skinny, but you'll have a high percentage of body fat, and very soon you'll start felling extremely weak, and your thought process will slow down.

Get off your ass, go the gym, walk, and eat right. Any other way is the wrong way.

Not that I care, do what you want, but dont argue with people who know better when its obvious you dont have a clue what your doing/talking about.

Dave 05-18-2011 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoc (Post 470677)
It will when your body (organs, brain, nervous system, digestive system) stop working and responding the way they should.

You need a proper diet and exercise to lose weight and be healthy, period. Skinny does not equal healthy, and if you keep trying to subsist on an unhealthy calory deficit, your going to crash hard. Not to mention that Caroline is 100% right, your body will stop burning far, and start storing it, and it will happen very soon. Add that to the fact that you may be skinnier, but its because your mostly burning muscle, as your body wont burn fat when your not eating properly. So sure, you may end up skinny, but you'll have a high percentage of body fat, and very soon you'll start felling extremely weak, and your thought process will slow down.

Get off your ass, go the gym, walk, and eat right. Any other way is the wrong way.

Not that I care, do what you want, but dont argue with people who know better when its obvious you dont have a clue what your doing/talking about.

The wild assumptions, backing somone up whose post implied its own lack of knowlege, not even getting that person's NAME right...you think the ads in m&f are real articles don't you? :lmao:

Apoc 05-18-2011 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 470699)
The wild assumptions, backing somone up whose post implied its own lack of knowlege, not even getting that person's NAME right...you think the ads in m&f are real articles don't you? :lmao:


Bla, I mixed up the elf with Caroline (archren), simple mistake.

And no, I dont read M&F, and I know more about nutrition than anyone here, save for maybe 101. I actually own and read university level books on the subject (many, I have about 30), and have an actual understanding about how calories and nutrients work within the body. You can do whatever the fuck you want, your body can fucking rot from the inside out for all I care, but dont ever fucking post the shit you do on the subject and then try to question or blatantly say I know nothing on a subject that i've been fucking interested in and studying for almost 10 years.

Its obvious you dont know shit, so dont fucking pretend otherwise. I lived it, I bodybuilded for years, and ate and trained properly every fucking day, down to gram and microgram of macro and micro-nutrition.

I dont care if you only eat 200 fucking calories a day, it doesnt affect me. But dont try and pretend your methods are effective or correct, all because you'd rather be a lazy ass motherfucker than actually do things right.

Archren 05-18-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoc (Post 470712)
Bla, I mixed up the elf with Caroline (archren), simple mistake.

Rae is way cooler than me. :lol:

the chi 05-18-2011 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 470699)
The wild assumptions, backing somone up whose post implied its own lack of knowlege, not even getting that person's NAME right...you think the ads in m&f are real articles don't you? :lmao:


Aside from him getting my name wrong (which I dont mind I promise), you ASSUME we both dont know what we're talking about. I can assure you, you're wrong. Perhaps you need to talk to a doc sweetie, but ridiculing people for trying to let you know that you are damaging yourself is pretty ignorant.

Perhaps I can refer you to my doctor, my teacher, and my personal trainer, as well as any online website that can tell you the truth. :shrug:

http://www.everydayhealth.com/weight...etabolism.aspx

http://www.livestrong.com/article/29...ries-in-a-day/

Specifically:

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Significance
If you are trying to lose weight, consuming too few calories in a day can significantly alter weight loss goals. According to the consumer health information site Net Wellness, if your calorie intake falls below 50 percent of your RMR, your body goes into starvation mode. As this occurs, fat metabolism stops and lean tissue and muscle mass metabolism begins. According to registered dietitian and writer Juliette Kellow, as you begin losing muscle mass, metabolism slows ever further as decreasing muscle and tissue mass requires less energy to function, and weight loss slows or stops.
Any licensed health professional will tell you this. :skep:

the chi 05-18-2011 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Archren (Post 470716)
Rae is way cooler than me. :lol:


pfffft. :nee: Like I said, I'm in no way offended at being confused with you.

the chi 05-18-2011 02:37 PM

And, just to throw a lil more info your way...

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Effects
Too few calories have an effect on blood sugar levels. Normally, metabolism causes blood sugar levels to increase as food energy in the form of glucose enters your bloodstream. Insulin, produced and secreted by your pancreas, helps glucose get into body cells and tissues, bringing blood sugar back down to normal levels. According to the University of Maryland Medical Center, too few calories cause a reduction in blood sugar levels that can lead to a condition called hypoglycemia. Symptoms of hypoglycemia include depression, anxiety, irritability, trembling and heart palpitations.
Potential
Continually consuming too few calories in a day can lead to the development of an eating disorder called anorexia nervosa. According to Help Guide, a nonprofit health information site, anorexia nervosa has the potential to affect hormone production, fluid balance and every organ in your body. Early symptoms of anorexia nervosa can include fatigue, constipation, body chills, headaches and dizziness. Later symptoms can include disruption of menstrual periods in women, jaundice, changes in brain chemistry, kidney or heart failure.

Consideration
An eventual return to your pre-diet weight is a typical consequence of consuming too few calories in an attempt to lose weight. According to Net Wellness, this can make further attempts to lose weight more difficult for two reasons. First, your metabolism is slower due to decreased muscle mass and second, the weight you gain back is fat that requires a high metabolic rate to burn.
But hell, what do professionals know?

Archren 05-18-2011 02:41 PM

Everything I've been taught from trainers and former body-builders/competitive lifters has been much along the same lines as what Rae has mentioned. I'm not a nutritionist, nor am I a doctor, but what little I have learned in the advanced bio courses I took years ago seem to fit the logic that when your body is in starvation mode, it will hoard fat, and burn muscle - breaking down protein gives more energy over the long term than fat or carbs do. Whether it's your own protein or the protein from another source (plant or animal), the results are the same in terms of energy production.

Dave 05-18-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoc (Post 470712)
Bla, I mixed up the elf with Caroline (archren), simple mistake.

And no, I dont read M&F, and I know more about nutrition than anyone here, save for maybe 101. I actually own and read university level books on the subject (many, I have about 30), and have an actual understanding about how calories and nutrients work within the body. You can do whatever the fuck you want, your body can fucking rot from the inside out for all I care, but dont ever fucking post the shit you do on the subject and then try to question or blatantly say I know nothing on a subject that i've been fucking interested in and studying for almost 10 years.

Its obvious you dont know shit, so dont fucking pretend otherwise. I lived it, I bodybuilded for years, and ate and trained properly every fucking day, down to gram and microgram of macro and micro-nutrition.

I dont care if you only eat 200 fucking calories a day, it doesnt affect me. But dont try and pretend your methods are effective or correct, all because you'd rather be a lazy ass motherfucker than actually do things right.

When did I ever pretend I knew what I was talking about? You've made the whole thing up as an excuse to write a book about how intellegent you are. All over an offhand comment that's not even close to accurate. Keep going though, if you say fuck two more times you'll have rewritten limp bizkit's "hot dog" :lol:

Apoc 05-18-2011 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 470729)
When did I ever pretend I knew what I was talking about? You've made the whole thing up as an excuse to write a book about how intellegent you are. All over an offhand comment that's not even close to accurate.


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backing somone up whose post implied its own lack of knowlege, not even getting that person's NAME right...you think the ads in m&f are real articles don't you?

Two people made perfectly friendly posts to actually help you, then you went off with that second stupid comment I quoted. Nobody made anything up as an excuse for anything, and this whole arguement was the result of your ignorance on the subject.

tommymac 05-18-2011 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by the chi (Post 470723)
And, just to throw a lil more info your way...



But hell, what do professionals know?

I dont claim to know anything :lol:

torilynne 05-18-2011 08:40 PM

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/001940.htm

Not that facts usually matter, but this site says the lowest recommended intake of calories by a man should be 1,500 so eating at lowest 1,500, but more often than not 2,000 calories a day is probably safe. Then again I could be wrong but the fact that he's in got more muscle tone than when I met him from working out AND dieting, is overall happier, sleeps better, and has improved PT scores makes me think otherwise.

OneSickPsycho 05-18-2011 09:07 PM

Yeah, but are you pooping good?

Apoc 05-18-2011 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by torilynne (Post 470823)
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/001940.htm

Not that facts usually matter, but this site says the lowest recommended intake of calories by a man should be 1,500 so eating at lowest 1,500, but more often than not 2,000 calories a day is probably safe. Then again I could be wrong but the fact that he's in got more muscle tone than when I met him from working out AND dieting, is overall happier, sleeps better, and has improved PT scores makes me think otherwise.



Depends on height, body structure, and how active you are.

1500 calories is reccomended for either someone who is very small and thin naturally, their body not needing as much nutrients and living a normal but not overly active lifestylr, or someone larger with a completely sedentary lifestyle. Someone who doesnt exercise, work in a physical job, or do any sort of manual labor.

And active person

torilynne 05-18-2011 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 470837)
Yeah, but are you pooping good?

YES! Yes he is lol trust me he has me yelling "OH MY GOD WAS THAT YOU?!?" pretty much every night:lol

Anyways since everyone was worried I made sure he hit 2,000 calories tonight with homemade chicken nuggets and beer

OneSickPsycho 05-19-2011 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by torilynne (Post 470857)
YES! Yes he is lol trust me he has me yelling "OH MY GOD WAS THAT YOU?!?" pretty much every night:lol

Anyways since everyone was worried I made sure he hit 2,000 calories tonight with homemade chicken nuggets and beer

I'm no expert, but chicken nuggets and beer doesn't sound like a dinner of champions...

tommymac 05-19-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 470928)
I'm no expert, but chicken nuggets and beer doesn't sound like a dinner of champions...

If you have good beer it can be :lol:


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