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Dave 09-23-2008 09:32 AM

so i was wondering
 
if anyone else intentionally shift locks the rear tire so they can practice recovery? I do it at least once a week on the cm, really saved my bacon on sundays md run. I was coming down a hill that lead into a left curve and went to downshift and bumped it a gear further than i blipped for. Pulled the clutch, kicked to second, let her settle and blipped and took the corner. eased my pace a bit after that. Few too many close calls this weekend lol

z06boy 09-23-2008 09:40 AM

My current bikes have a slipper clutch so no can do...I have done it on other bikes goofing around though.

Trip 09-23-2008 09:41 AM

I do it at the track a lot, but it's not on purpose. I don't practice it.

Rider 09-23-2008 09:43 AM

Slipper clutch... FTW :rockout:

smileyman 09-23-2008 10:57 AM

I learned to roadrace on a Honda Hawk 650 and found slipping the clutch lever out gently allowed me to modulate rear wheel lock up and engine braking. I turned my observation into a skill aboard an SV650.

My ZX6R has a slipper clutch but you can still drag the clutch out and get some benefit of engine braking and even drag the rear tire abit before the slipper clutch interferes. I have observed Jason Pridmore using this technique on a slipper clutch equipped GSXR1000 and know that the skill is not something you use every corner, but in certain circumstances it is a handy tool you can bring out and use to great effect.

Trip 09-23-2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by smileyman (Post 72984)
I learned to roadrace on a Honda Hawk 650 and found slipping the clutch lever out gently allowed me to modulate rear wheel lock up and engine braking. I turned my observation into a skill aboard an SV650.

My ZX6R has a slipper clutch but you can still drag the clutch out and get some benefit of engine braking and even drag the rear tire abit before the slipper clutch interferes. I have observed Jason Pridmore using this technique on a slipper clutch equipped GSXR1000 and know that the skill is not something you use every corner, but in certain circumstances it is a handy tool you can bring out and use to great effect.

That's one thing I noticed on the R6 demo that I did. You could still chatter the rear even with the slipper, but I was hammering it down gears hard since it wasn't my bike.

Rider 09-23-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 72985)
That's one thing I noticed on the R6 demo that I did. You could still chatter the rear even with the slipper, but I was hammering it down gears hard since it wasn't my bike.

The slipper on the gixxer is adjustable, so you can set it to how much wheel chatter you like.

marko138 09-23-2008 11:20 AM

I wanna put the XBRR slipper on my XB12R. Money prohibits this.

DLIT 09-23-2008 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rider (Post 72965)
Slipper clutch... FTW :rockout:

Yup! I downshift from 2nd to 1st going 70mph and get absolutely no chatter.

ceo012384 09-23-2008 10:55 PM

Slipper FTW!
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Originally Posted by DLIT (Post 73099)
Yup! I downshift from 2nd to 1st going 70mph and get absolutely no chatter.

I can get some going into first on uneven surfaces... like the ripples going into Turn 3. I don't go into first there anymore though but I have.

Cutty72 09-23-2008 11:02 PM

slipper works great on the buell, but can get a touch of chatter from 2 to 1.

I have done it on the SV before, mostly fucking around though, but a couple times accidently.

Mr Lefty 09-29-2008 07:09 PM

I always seemed to lock up the rear when I down shift when at a stop light... never bugged me... never really thought about it...

PhiSig1071 09-29-2008 10:27 PM

That's how I initiate a slide on the SMC. Do it all the time.

The Awesome 09-30-2008 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 72985)
That's one thing I noticed on the R6 demo that I did. You could still chatter the rear even with the slipper

With a little practice you can actually chatter it all the way off the track at 150. I can work with you on it if you'd like.

Trip 09-30-2008 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Awesome (Post 74922)
With a little practice you can actually chatter it all the way off the track at 150. I can work with you on it if you'd like.

no thanks, I will pass, how's the arm?

smileyman 09-30-2008 11:44 AM

You really should practice locking the rear brake too. I panic stopped for a University bus that suddenly pulled over and THEN hit its lights last week. My rear brake locked the tire and sent me into a severe fish tail that I ultimately had to release all brake pressure and overun into the oncoming lane.:whistle:

The Awesome 09-30-2008 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 74957)
no thanks, I will pass, how's the arm?

It's getting better very slowly. I've got months of therapy still ahead. I had a goal of being able to ride out to the EOSB but I don't think I'll be able to work the throttle and brake by then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by smileyman (Post 74967)
You really should practice locking the rear brake too. I panic stopped for a University bus that suddenly pulled over and THEN hit its lights last week. My rear brake locked the tire and sent me into a severe fish tail that I ultimately had to release all brake pressure and overun into the oncoming lane.:whistle:

Use the front brake instead. Pull until the rear becomes light.

Dave 09-30-2008 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smileyman (Post 74967)
You really should practice locking the rear brake too. I panic stopped for a University bus that suddenly pulled over and THEN hit its lights last week. My rear brake locked the tire and sent me into a severe fish tail that I ultimately had to release all brake pressure and overun into the oncoming lane.:whistle:

hah i lock the rear and skid up to my garage every day on the 450 lol. i'll have to post pics of my rear driveway someday :whistle:

jeeps84 10-02-2008 10:59 PM

Ive always tried to avoid locking the rear or shifting to fast causing hop or chatter. I use the front break to square off a corner.


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