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pauldun170 11-18-2010 10:32 AM

The 'Israelification' of airports: High security, little bother
 
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/ar...-little-bother

Homeslice 11-18-2010 10:56 AM

Quote:

"To us, it doesn't matter if he's black, white, young or old. It's just his behaviour.
Sure.

KSGregman 11-18-2010 11:02 AM

"But, what can you do? Americans and Canadians are nice people and they will do anything because they were told to do so and because they don't know any different."

Dead....fucking....on....and it's SICKENING.

Homeslice 11-18-2010 11:03 AM

Quote:

"Even today with the heightened security in North America, they will check your items to death.
Huh?

The only "check" they get is through the scanner. 99.9% of our bags are never hand-checked or sniffed for explosives.

This is just more "We are Israelis, we are badass" talk. But I'm sure it will be received well by teabaggers in America, who secretly dream of being some kind of badass Mossad commando.

KSGregman 11-18-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 426273)
Huh?

The only "check" they get is through the scanner. 99.9% of our bags are never hand-checked or sniffed for explosives.

This is just more "We are Israelis, we are badass" talk. But I'm sure it will be received well by teabaggers in America, who secretly dream of being some kind of badass Mossad commando.

That is retarded...Why take such a close minded attitude to other approaches to airport "security?"

Do you REALLY think strip searching Grandma is going to prevent terrorists attacks? Or do you think, though you are loath to admit it, that paying more attention to the types of people who have attacked us in the past might make sense?

Homeslice 11-18-2010 11:29 AM

Just pointing out errors in the article.

And we DO pay attention to the types of people who have attacked us in the past. That's how we create the no-fly list. By analyzing people who come from certain countries, or have suspicious travel patterns or connections to certain organizations.

I see no need to supplement that by pulling aside people just because they "look like an Arab" or are wearing a turban.

If you really want to improve security, install chemical sniffers that operate 24/7. Not just on 0.1% of bags.

KSGregman 11-18-2010 11:44 AM

"The questions aren't important.The way people act when they answer them is," Sela said.

This

Officers are looking for nervousness or other signs of "distress" — behavioural profiling.

This

Sela rejects the argument that profiling is discriminatory. "The word 'profiling' is a political invention by people who don't want to do security."

This

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 426294)
I see no need to supplement that by pulling aside people just because they "look like an Arab" or are wearing a turban.

Not this

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 426294)
If you really want to improve security, install chemical sniffers that operate 24/7. Not just on 0.1% of bags.

Or this

AquaPython 11-18-2010 11:53 AM

that is pretty much how they run security all over there and it has been working quite well, considering the constant threats and the track record. When something does get by , they learn and adapt.
It is not just the airports, but pretty much any large public building like malls, you get stopped before entering the parking garage by security, who say hi to you, and pop your trunk (all cars have external trunk latches, i think it is law). They are not just checking behavior they are checking for accent. If you are arab, you will have a different accent when speaking Hebrew.

pauldun170 11-18-2010 12:06 PM

In order to do that here, they would need trained professionals.
Trained professionals, preferably officers and not some private company chosen because it was the lowest bidder.

Politicians and tea baggers would bitch and complain and demand that such jobs be handled by private free market blah blah blah not by career professionals or highly trained lifers.

Thats why we try and avoid this argument by saying robots and technology will do it better.

dReWpY 11-18-2010 12:43 PM

wow, i thought was actually a pic of a few pigeons at first lol


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