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RACER X 09-27-2012 02:37 PM

Spain going down the gutter
 
remember that guy on teh forums, where Spain was eutopia? land of endless trackdays and all girls were virgins, lol

anyways

it ain't like that any more.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/wo...oc.semityn.www

Spain Recoils as Its Hungry Forage Trash Bins for a Next Meal

KSGregman 09-27-2012 02:50 PM

Just give it time...the illusion of wealth in America will be shattered soon enough....and I can give you $16T reasons why that is true.

The path we are on is not sustainable...everyone knows it....and NO ONE is willing to do hard things now to prevent being forced into doing DEVASTATING things (such as those happening in Greece/Spain and soon to be Italy) in the future.

pauldun170 09-27-2012 02:53 PM

http://www.economist.com/node/21556238

KSGregman 09-27-2012 03:02 PM

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/grea...=9780812923278

Read it....it's deja vu all over again.

These aren't "other people's problems"....Greece's problems...Spain's problems...Ireland's problems....Italy's problems.

They're OUR problems....for again allowing wealth distribution to become too heavily skewed...with entirely predictable results. The REAL shame in all this is that it's happened before....with entirely DISASTROUS consquences (two World Wars etc)...consequences that apparently taught us absolutely NOTHING.

pauldun170 09-27-2012 03:25 PM

Spain's issue is that without the ability to control their monetary policy, they cannot effectively control their economy. It doesn't help much that there is an institutionalized nap time in the country.

When it comes to European countries, if you can walk to the beach and dip your foot in the Mediterranean...just expect economic nonsense.

Homeslice 09-27-2012 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 520439)
It doesn't help much that there is an institutionalized nap time in the country.

Not surprised

Not being racist, but....

Oh wait maybe I am

fatbuckRTO 09-27-2012 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSGregman (Post 520435)
and NO ONE is willing to do hard things now to prevent being forced into doing DEVASTATING things (such as those happening in Greece/Spain and soon to be Italy) in the future.

I wouldn't classify the so-called austerity measures as devastating things. To be fair, I haven't been able to find a detailed list of these measures. All of the articles I've read on the subject have been frustratingly vague.

But, from what I can gather, they've cut pay to government workers and cut social services. If they are like some other European countries, and "social services" include paid vacations and old-man-balls low working hours, the "austerity measures" they're seeing wouldn't phase the average American. Like Paul pointed out, a nap-time culture doesn't make for a strong economy to begin with.

Then you have this mindset:

Quote:

“It’s against the dignity of these people to have to look for food in this manner,” said Eduardo Berloso, an official in Girona, the city that padlocked its supermarket trash bins.

Mr. Berloso proposed the measure last month after hearing from social workers and seeing for himself one evening “the humiliating gesture of a mother with children looking around before digging into the bins.”
So, to protect the dignity of his fellow Spaniards, he'll lock the trash bins and let them starve to death. Brilliant.

Tmall 09-27-2012 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 520433)
remember that guy on teh forums, where Spain was eutopia? land of endless trackdays and all girls were virgins, lol

anyways

it ain't like that any more.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/wo...oc.semityn.www

Spain Recoils as Its Hungry Forage Trash Bins for a Next Meal

Those are some pretty trendy clothes for somebody dumpster diving...

Sixxxxer 09-28-2012 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 520433)
remember that guy on teh forums, where Spain was eutopia? land of endless trackdays and all girls were virgins, lol

anyways

it ain't like that any more.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/wo...oc.semityn.www

Spain Recoils as Its Hungry Forage Trash Bins for a Next Meal

Because this doesnt happen in every country in the world?

Spain was never the exception...Neither is America.

How about this shit...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/26/wo...-in-spain.html

What do you think happens if thousands of Americans surround the white house?

OneSickPsycho 09-28-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer (Post 520485)
Because this doesnt happen in every country in the world?

Spain was never the exception...Neither is America.

How about this shit...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/26/wo...-in-spain.html

What do you think happens if thousands of Americans surround the white house?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings x100... or more...


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