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Old 02-01-2010, 03:38 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO View Post
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the millions of people who only buy "Japanese" because they put 200k plus on their Toyotas with few or no problems and their "American" GMs were crapping out at 90k.

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You are talking about sales, not about reliability records, which of course can only be used to report quality issues.

When Toyota lauched it's 1998 vehicles (Enhanced EVAP mandate) the diagnostics only ran during the government tested EPA 23 cycle. Meaning they never ran the diagnostics in real world driving. So...when the other American OEMs had Check Engine lights on for gap caps missing or a small leak detected (and it was a big issue), Toyota did not. Subsequently after Toyota won the lawsuit against them from CARB (because the law never said the diagnostics had to actually run in the real world), CARB mandated Rate Based Diagnostics in 2005 to combat the potential fraud by Japanese OEMs (Toyota in general).

Even the California Air Resources Board doesn't trust Toyota...they have left too many a bad stain on things and bascially committed legal fraud.

When you keep the Check Engine OFF and deny blame (see the accelerator pedal, Tacoma tailgates, Sienna oil burning problems etc. etc. etc. I could on) your percieved quality goes up. The only reason you do not hear about these is because they will rarely post up bulletins or perform recals UNLESS they are forced to do so. And...the American public (dumb as they are) believes every bit of it.

They have proven to be a dishonest company to many.....you just don't hear about it.
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