2008 Kx450F or Yz450F?

[shmike]

Originally Posted by Apoc

I never said it was docile, I said it feels docile compared to a 2 stroke. Dont get me wrong, the damn things are mean as hell, but they dont have the snap of a 2 stroke. Wheelie in every gear? Hell yes they do. But so does a cr250. Rev fast as hell? Yes, but not like a 2 stroke.

I also owned a 2006 trx450r (honda race quad), and while it was about 75 pounds heavier than a 450 dirt bike, it was close to as fast. A ton of fun? yes. As powerful as, say, a banshee? Not even close.

I grew up much like you guys, riding all types of dirty toys all kinds of ways they weren't intended.

I also love me some 2 strokes.

That said, you are flat out wrong about the new 4Ts being down on power vs the old 2Ts.

A stock Banshee makes about 37hp. A stock 450r makes about 39hp.

The old 2Ts were cheap to make fast, they were loud and they hit like a ton of bricks once on the pipe. Just because the new bikes are more quiet and make power in a more linear fashion doesn't mean they are down on power.