2001 Suzuki TL1000R vs. 2002 Honda CBR 954RR... another biased comparison.

[tlstreak]

There not too mush difference in the 2 bikes. The engines will swap out from one to the other. R has a little better FI system. S is the lighter of the 2. R came with heavier springs in the front and a hydrolic clutch. Most switch the clutch for the S. S and R both have alot of the same internal pieces. Same clutch although earilier S did have a slightly different clutch. Clutch is a first style slipper type clutch. Works best with a set of barnett springs in it.

Both bikes need help in the FI system, either a yosh box mapping or a PC with a custom map. Rear shocks on both need to be tossed for upgrades. Wheels are bricks. A nice lighter wheel up front makes a world of difference. Wiring is too be desired. The 30 amp starter relay is an issue. It needs to be removed and upgraded or made into a solid device inside the wiring harness. Once done is bullet proof. Removing the entire wiring harness and cutting the factory crimps and soldering the entire thing will greatly improve spark and spark plug life.

I could go on for a very very long time along with a few other members on this board that I know where long time owners and heavy modders of the models.

All in all between the R and S, it mostly boiled down to who put the more tme into it.

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by tlstreak

There not too mush difference in the 2 bikes. The engines will swap out from one to the other. R has a little better FI system. S is the lighter of the 2. R came with heavier springs in the front and a hydrolic clutch. Most switch the clutch for the S. S and R both have alot of the same internal pieces. Same clutch although earilier S did have a slightly different clutch. Clutch is a first style slipper type clutch. Works best with a set of barnett springs in it.

Both bikes need help in the FI system, either a yosh box mapping or a PC with a custom map. Rear shocks on both need to be tossed for upgrades. Wheels are bricks. A nice lighter wheel up front makes a world of difference. Wiring is too be desired. The 30 amp starter relay is an issue. It needs to be removed and upgraded or made into a solid device inside the wiring harness. Once done is bullet proof. Removing the entire wiring harness and cutting the factory crimps and soldering the entire thing will greatly improve spark and spark plug life.

I could go on for a very very long time along with a few other members on this board that I know where long time owners and heavy modders of the models.

All in all between the R and S, it mostly boiled down to who put the more tme into it.

All that and you miss the biggest difference of them all... TLR and TLS have totally different chassis... Part of the reason the TLS was dubbed 'the widowmaker' was because of it's poorly designed chassis, which amoungst other things caused the bike to be unstable (and crack frames).

[tlstreak]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

All that and you miss the biggest difference of them all... TLR and TLS have totally different chassis... Part of the reason the TLS was dubbed 'the widowmaker' was because of it's poorly designed chassis, which amoungst other things caused the bike to be unstable (and crack frames).

Switch the shock and the crack in the frame is gone,which wasnt the "widow maker" dub from the begining. Which is only to the 97/98 model that had the differnt ECU which is the more sought after , but didnt have the factory stabilizer on the steering. That they all have now.

The S actually won a race, the R never did.