2001 Suzuki TL1000R vs. 2002 Honda CBR 954RR... another biased comparison.

[Dnyce]

Originally Posted by Ebbs15

well it also has to do with the I4's now compete'n with the Duc's in races... for a while the I4's couldn't compete well with the Duc's...

wasnt it the other way? thats why duc's get the extra displacement, 1200 vs 1000cc i thought.

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by Dnyce

wasnt it the other way? thats why duc's get the extra displacement, 1200 vs 1000cc i thought.

no prior to that... the I4's were getting killed by the Vtwins... hence honda racing the RC51 and not the 954...

then the I4's took off and started whoop'n on the V-twins... now the playing field is about level with the V-twins given 200cc's extra.

[Dnyce]

gotcha

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by Ebbs15

well it also has to do with the I4's now compete'n with the Duc's in races... for a while the I4's couldn't compete well with the Duc's...

but the problem is people buy'n a spec sheet... like the new GSXR1000 has 180+hp so it must be the fastest (i have no idea what the new bikes make just making a point)

I was talk'n to a couple guys the other day... talk'n about buy'n a new bike. I mentioned I want either a GSXR or CBR600RR 06-09... and they were both quote'n what the 09's were puting out in hp... oh the GSXR is putting out 120hp this year... no way you'll want the 06 with only 110 or so... yeah cause that extra 20hp is worth the extra 4g's it'll cost me.

Exactly. Meanwhile those are the same guys who have 4" chicken strips and LED engine lights on 2 year old bikes with 1200 miles on them... People who actually RIDE their bikes are generally less concerned with the spec sheet.

Heh, these are also the same guys who tell you they've had their 600 up to 185mph or they've had their 1k up to 215mph... Within the past week I've ran into TWO of those retards.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Exactly. Meanwhile those are the same guys who have 4" chicken strips and LED engine lights on 2 year old bikes with 1200 miles on them... People who actually RIDE their bikes are generally less concerned with the spec sheet.

Heh, these are also the same guys who tell you they've had their 600 up to 185mph or they've had their 1k up to 215mph... Within the past week I've ran into TWO of those retards.

Yea I see those guys too...I try to ignore them. It's funny tho' when you run into them at a bike night and they try to drag you into their bullshit...

"Hey dude,you have a 1000,I was just telling these girls that mine will do over 200mph,right?"

"Nope,Mine will "only" do about 175mph,Maybe yours is "special""

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Yea I see those guys too...I try to ignore them. It's funny tho' when you run into them at a bike night and they try to drag you into their bullshit...

"Hey dude,you have a 1000,I was just telling these girls that mine will do over 200mph,right?"

"Nope,Mine will "only" do about 175mph,Maybe yours is "special""

A guy at work asked me the other night, "how fast you had that thing?"... I told him an indicated 165... He was like, "shit, you could get that thing over 200 easy..., I had my '07 GSXR 6 up to 185..." Then I started telling him about the 186 gentlemens agreement in the industry and the history behind it... and that he was totally full of shit...

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

A guy at work asked me the other night, "how fast you had that thing?"... I told him an indicated 165... He was like, "shit, you could get that thing over 200 easy..., I had my '07 GSXR 6 up to 185..." Then I started telling him about the 186 gentlemens agreement in the industry and the history behind it... and that he was totally full of shit...

Yea well,I know a kid that SWEARS his 600rr does 200 mph!!! Right..

[marko138]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

A guy at work asked me the other night, "how fast you had that thing?"... I told him an indicated 165... He was like, "shit, you could get that thing over 200 easy..., I had my '07 GSXR 6 up to 185..." Then I started telling him about the 186 gentlemens agreement in the industry and the history behind it... and that he was totally full of shit...

I tell them 45mph. Thats the fastest I ever got it.


(*insert your shitty Buell jokes and how they have no top end*)

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by Ebbs15

no prior to that... the I4's were getting killed by the Vtwins... hence honda racing the RC51 and not the 954...

then the I4's took off and started whoop'n on the V-twins... now the playing field is about level with the V-twins given 200cc's extra.

I seem to recall the rules being that the i4s were either unrestricted 800ccs and or 1000 with restrictor plates when Hayden was "kicking" everybody's ass.


Edit: The 1000cc I4s weren't even allowed in 02 it seems..

http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/ar...hp/t-7646.html I know it's not quite a technical source, but it's a list for the 03 rules, and it seems the 1000s were being introduced that year.

Soooo.. Honda wouldn't have been allowed to race the 954 when Nicky won the championship.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Ebbs15

no prior to that... the I4's were getting killed by the Vtwins... hence honda racing the RC51 and not the 954...

then the I4's took off and started whoop'n on the V-twins... now the playing field is about level with the V-twins given 200cc's extra.

you've got this all fucked up. superbike rules were i4 750s vs v2 1000s. 954's raced in formula extreme. twins always seem to need about a 200 cc advantage to be able to play