They all can bow in front of Fords

Mr Lefty · 12-06-2008, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Carolina

WTF where Ebbs been today he finally got a girl or something after a whole year in Korea WTF

I know he is gonna chime in with some facts and shii i await. I think ford did a good job of calling everyone out and whupping up on em perty good. That just means all the companies gonna or are already whipping up some good trucks for the future.

yeah the new toy's all have the "progressive" frames... fully boxed up front dual wall... then just fully boxed.. then C channel under the bed... fuck'n retarded imo...

my 87 has a fully boxed frame and 1'ton rated axles... they OVER ENGINEERED my truck... that's why it's lasted. I'd love to see what my truck would do out there... though it's so light it'd probably be pitched around something fierce... the new ones I'm not overly impressed with as they've done away with the mind set of building the truck to last forever in every aspect... but in terms of reliability I'll still buy a Toyota over any domestic out there.

Dave · 12-06-2008, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ebbs15

yeah the new toy's all have the "progressive" frames... fully boxed up front dual wall... then just fully boxed.. then C channel under the bed... fuck'n retarded imo...

my 87 has a fully boxed frame and 1'ton rated axles... they OVER ENGINEERED my truck... that's why it's lasted. I'd love to see what my truck would do out there... though it's so light it'd probably be pitched around something fierce... the new ones I'm not overly impressed with as they've done away with the mind set of building the truck to last forever in every aspect... but in terms of reliability I'll still buy a Toyota over any domestic out there.

watch the video i linked

Mr Lefty · 12-06-2008, 09:54 PM

they all come up invalid... but your probably talking about the top gear episode... where they burn, flood, wreck, roll, drop a trailor on it, and demolish a building out from under it and still drive it.

Dave · 12-06-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ebbs15

they all come up invalid... but your probably talking about the top gear episode... where they burn, flood, wreck, roll, drop a trailor on it, and demolish a building out from under it and still drive it.

yep, and dont blame me. i said peeps should cut the whole thing above and then paste it and delete the space. dont know why this site is so adamant about putting it in tags

Mr Lefty · 12-06-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

yep, and dont blame me. i said peeps should cut the whole thing above and then paste it and delete the space. dont know why this site is so adamant about putting it in tags

it's not this site... if you look... it says the user who uploaded the video's disabled embedding.

yeah I missed the space the first time

DIMford · 12-07-2008, 09:28 AM

I like the videos.. but I will stick with my Chevy for now.

tlstreak · 12-07-2008, 09:59 AM

Our company gave Dodge a chance . We bought 2 trucks for each location in our region. They were to replace 5-8 year old 200,000 mile trucks and vans.

Both dodges are already sold, with massive amounts of down time due to transmission issues, fuel pump, injectors, and a shit load of other issues, and high ass maint. cost that the dealers could not even get right.

So we kept the 200,000 + trucks and sold the Dodge's both under 60k and both had to be towed off the lot.

Ford has proven it self to me over and over with a good running depedable body and motor, with some of the lowest maint costs ive seen. Its entire line up of trucks and vans are more cost effective than anything else out there for long term use, and efficency.

Dave · 12-07-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ebbs15

it's not this site... if you look... it says the user who uploaded the video's disabled embedding.

yeah I missed the space the first time

yeah, also appears that now top gear has a youtube account theyve had all third party version removed. and what i meant about this site was i cant just post the link and have a link show up. it automatically embeds the fucker

Mr Lefty · 12-07-2008, 03:21 PM

I understand the first video, as it relays just how flexable the frame is... and how well the suspension does it's job...

but the others I do have a little issue with... especially the second and third ones.

the second can be almost completely elimenated by loading your trailer correctly... and by not letting off the throttle as the semi goes by... or... by just accelorating after the semi goes by...

so what's that test prove? that Fords are better for people who need to learn about towing things proberly? for people who often carry unsafe loads?

don't get me wrong... the technology is great... but again... wouldn't be that big a deal if it was just properly loaded.

the 3rd video is just stupid... so great... you can haul a heavier load with the ford at higher speeds... just what we need. This has to do with frame ridgity... so basicly it's a 2nd test proving what the first did... ford has a fully boxed frame that's quite stiff...

the 4th video, I'm just intrested how much of the human factor came in to play... given they were stoping and going... and you have humans driving so how do you get relative data? also it says 38m... that's great... but what does it mean? 38 mins at what speed? a lower speed would relate to maybe .5 or 1 mpg more... which is where I think this ended up or they'd have said... we went 3 miles further than the dodge... ect.

12-07-2008, 09:28 AM	#6
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12-06-2008, 09:54 PM	#3
Mr Lefty TWFix Legend Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver CO Moto: 01 BMW F650GS Dakar Posts: 15,677	they all come up invalid... but your probably talking about the top gear episode... where they burn, flood, wreck, roll, drop a trailor on it, and demolish a building out from under it and still drive it.

12-07-2008, 09:59 AM	#7
tlstreak As Seen On TV Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NE TN Moto: 01 929 Posts: 54	Our company gave Dodge a chance . We bought 2 trucks for each location in our region. They were to replace 5-8 year old 200,000 mile trucks and vans. Both dodges are already sold, with massive amounts of down time due to transmission issues, fuel pump, injectors, and a shit load of other issues, and high ass maint. cost that the dealers could not even get right. So we kept the 200,000 + trucks and sold the Dodge's both under 60k and both had to be towed off the lot. Ford has proven it self to me over and over with a good running depedable body and motor, with some of the lowest maint costs ive seen. Its entire line up of trucks and vans are more cost effective than anything else out there for long term use, and efficency.

12-07-2008, 03:21 PM	#9
Mr Lefty TWFix Legend Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver CO Moto: 01 BMW F650GS Dakar Posts: 15,677	I understand the first video, as it relays just how flexable the frame is... and how well the suspension does it's job... but the others I do have a little issue with... especially the second and third ones. the second can be almost completely elimenated by loading your trailer correctly... and by not letting off the throttle as the semi goes by... or... by just accelorating after the semi goes by... so what's that test prove? that Fords are better for people who need to learn about towing things proberly? for people who often carry unsafe loads? don't get me wrong... the technology is great... but again... wouldn't be that big a deal if it was just properly loaded. the 3rd video is just stupid... so great... you can haul a heavier load with the ford at higher speeds... just what we need. This has to do with frame ridgity... so basicly it's a 2nd test proving what the first did... ford has a fully boxed frame that's quite stiff... the 4th video, I'm just intrested how much of the human factor came in to play... given they were stoping and going... and you have humans driving so how do you get relative data? also it says 38m... that's great... but what does it mean? 38 mins at what speed? a lower speed would relate to maybe .5 or 1 mpg more... which is where I think this ended up or they'd have said... we went 3 miles further than the dodge... ect.