Buell 1125CR

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by Dnyce

it appeared by the posts that the stock brakes sucked compared to stock standard 2rotors-i understand they are a consumable, but if u immediatly need to change the pads because they suck, then u arent consuming the first set. which sucks. but thats just the way i read it, coulda misinterpreted it. it happens.
dont think its 8lbs..maybe more like 4-5, that caliper looks waaaay bigger than the 1st version. when the 1st version first came out i think they claimed 6 or 7lbs dif

it seems most of the weight is saved from the rim, so couldnt u possibly have two ztl rotors, and two smaller calipers and come out with slightly better brakes with out changing the weight much if any?

Stock brakes are fine for street riding. Bit lacking for race purpose.
The weight savings is from one less rotor, one less caliper, and all the fasteners involved for said items.

[Dnyce]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

Stock brakes are fine for street riding. Bit lacking for race purpose.
The weight savings is from one less rotor, one less caliper, and all the fasteners involved for said items.

and the wheel.

the guys complaining arent racers as far as i know
doesnt matter, id never get a 1125. dont hurt to analyze innovation tho

[marko138]

Wheel is correct. Just look how thin the spokes are...the braking forces aren't being transfered to the hub with the ZTL.


The stock pads...and I dont know about the 1125...as I've had limited riding time on them...but on the Firebolt they are too soft. They leave deposits on the rotors that make it feel warped. The Lyndall Gold's took care of all of that. They have great feel and great power.


Buell wheel:

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by marko138

Wheel is correct. Just look how thin the spokes are...the braking forces aren't being transfered to the hub with the ZTL.


The stock pads...and I dont know about the 1125...as I've had limited riding time on them...but on the Firebolt they are too soft. They leave deposits on the rotors that make it feel warped. The Lyndall Gold's took care of all of that. They have great feel and great power.

how soft they are. Still well over 50% with over 7K on 'em.
The "deposits" can be taken care of with some aggressive braking too

[Dnyce]

and the 1125 has the second gen ztl system-bigger caliper, four pads-probably work better than the firebolt stock vs stock

its a retrofit to the other models i think too....

[FT BSTRD]

The weight savings is 6.6lbs per Buell's documents. In addition, Buell spec'd special tires that also had approximately 1-1.5 lbs less overall weight (this is part of the reason that the tires were changed in later years from the stock Dunlops that tended to stand up in cornering).

The Diablo T were supposed to be lighter than the stock Diablo tires. I know they spec'd the D616 to specific weight characteristics.

For most folks who ride "normally", the stock brakes are fine. Those who ride more "spiritedly" would want upgraded brake pads. They are $50. It ain't like it's a big expense. Remember, there is only ONE set.


Because the rotor is mounted directly to the rim, there is no need to have thicker spokes in order to transfer the braking force from the hub to the rim.


The system works and works very well. Changing the brake pad composition improves initial bite and overall feel.

There has never been a situation street or track where I lacked for braking. You'd be hard pressed to out brake me with a conventional system.


The new ZTL2 system with four pot caliper has the same surface area and braking force as a twin four pot system.


It's different, and that scares people.

[marko138]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

how soft they are. Still well over 50% with over 7K on 'em.
The "deposits" can be taken care of with some aggressive braking too

Maybe the stockers are different on the 1125's. Mine where damn near shot when I bought the bike with 5300 miles on it.

[FT BSTRD]

Originally Posted by marko138

Maybe the stockers are different on the 1125's. Mine where damn near shot when I bought the bike with 5300 miles on it.

Yep. Mine were blasted at 4500 miles with really bad deposits on the rotors.

They replaced the rotors under warranty and I immediately got Lyndall's Golds.

They stop like stink, give much better feedback, and last much longer.


I don't know who sources the stockers, but they suck. I think they provide the wrong impression for testers. I would recommend that all test bikes be fitted with Lyndall's or EBC HH pads.

[marko138]

Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

Yep. Mine were blasted at 4500 miles with really bad deposits on the rotors.

They replaced the rotors under warranty and I immediately got Lyndall's Golds.

They stop like stink, give much better feedback, and last much longer.


I don't know who sources the stockers, but they suck. I think they provide the wrong impression for testers. I would recommend that all test bikes be fitted with Lyndall's or EBC HH pads.

You ride track at all? If so, do you keep the Lyndalls on for track duty? I've read, on badweb I believe, that the Lyndalls are the greatest for track duty.


I was thinking about getting a set of EBC's for the track.