Your definition of full gear

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

I don't see why. The question is about perception, not whether perception = reality. For that purpose it doesn't matter whether perception and reality are the same thing.

There are a lot of people down there who are legally able to ride without helmets. Their perception of what 'full gear' is can be skewed. There may be some who believe that they are wearing full gear when they have a leather jacket on, but no helmet. It makes for an interesting dichotomy.

Then there are those who do most of their riding on the track. To them my Aerostich suit might not be considered full gear, because it isn't legal wear for most track organizations. If you aren't using a back protector, then they might not consider you to be wearing full gear.

*sniff* *sniff*...do I smell "LOGIC"? No fair sir,you have completely derailed my argument with your underhanded use of logic! Well played!

I will,of course,defer to your well put statements on what a person's "perception" of what full gear may entail but I must still vehemently maintain that any one person's perception of what proper gear consists of will not in any way abrogate what full gear actually entails by "definition".

[HRCNICK11]

For the record I have seen a few people crash in jeans and they only last about a foot of the slide so if you slide more than a foot you might as well be in shorts. Cotton is not safety gear its for comfort and Q-tips.

At the very least you should ride in the ripstop nylon stuff.

[rogue]

I ride with helmet, gloves, armoured jacket(s), and boots. I wear jeans and take the chance. I'm fine with that. I also make sure the jeans I wear are thick jeans, not those thin ones like most women's jeans seemed to be made lately. I know it doesn't offer much protection, but it still something between my skin and the pavement, regardless how long it may or may not last.

[Rider]

Helmet, leather jacket, leather pants, leather gloves, over the ankle moto boots, and a back protector is full gear to me. You could even goes as far as adding knee braces and a neck brace to the list.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Rider

Helmet, leather jacket, leather pants, leather gloves, over the ankle moto boots, and a back protector is full gear to me. You could even goes as far as adding knee braces and a neck brace to the list.

I have honestly never seen a "knee brace" for street riding...I'm not sure I've even seen a neck brace per se'...

[Mr Lefty]

I don't think he mean a riding specific knee brace

and actually they make a riding neck brace... lots of the young riders have to wear them
http://thekneeslider.com/archives/20...le-neck-brace/

[Yamerhaw]

for those that dont think they need gear if just cruising the strip or going to the store, or if you'll only be doing 20 or 30mph, try this: set on your buddies truck tailgate in your t shirt and jeans, have him maintain a constant 30mph and then, jump off.... this will give you a good idea as to how well your jeans and skin hold up to the pavement

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Yamerhaw

for those that dont think they need gear if just cruising the strip or going to the store, or if you'll only be doing 20 or 30mph, try this: set on your buddies truck tailgate in your t shirt and jeans, have him maintain a constant 30mph and then, jump off.... this will give you a good idea as to how well your jeans and skin hold up to the pavement

Have you ever...skateboarded,rode a bicycle,sledded,etc? Don't tell me you were one of those pansies whose mom made them wear full gear to cross the street....