NC Dealer doesn't think gear is necessary

[deals gap dragon slayer]

well looks like i got through to him some... there's a small disclaimer under the pics now. its not a victory, but close

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by deals gap dragon slayer

well looks like i got through to him some... there's a small disclaimer under the pics now. its not a victory, but close

Congratulations! You've imposed your own brand of Nazism on another human being! Hurray!

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Congratulations! You've imposed your own brand of Nazism on another human being! Hurray!

Well said.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Tmall

Well said.

I don't know if you're serious on not but I really don't feel that Dealers or any kind of salesmen should be considered "role models" it's ridiculous. That would be like getting mad at a car dealer that shows people driving without seatbelts (in a state where that's legal of course). Oh my GOD,I saw a commercial the other day for a bicycle shop that showed people riding bikes WITHOUT helmets,elbow guards,knee guards etc! Something has to be done!!!! There was also an ad for Office Max where the clerk had pens in his pocket......without a POCKET PROTECTOR!!!! Oh the humanity!!!!!

[marko138]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

I don't know if you're serious on not but I really don't feel that Dealers or any kind of salesmen should be considered "role models" it's ridiculous. That would be like getting mad at a car dealer that shows people driving without seatbelts (in a state where that's legal of course). Oh my GOD,I saw a commercial the other day for a bicycle shop that showed people riding bikes WITHOUT helmets,elbow guards,knee guards etc! Something has to be done!!!! There was also an ad for Office Max where the clerk had pens in his pocket......without a POCKET PROTECTOR!!!! Oh the humanity!!!!!

You know....I'm sorta with you on this. There's no law that says you can't wear tshirt, shorts, and sandals. Is it smart...of course not...but who cares. We are all adults. We make our own decisions. If these numbskulls want to roll in that attire then it's their choice. I dont give a fuck what they wear.

I wear what I want to wear, you wear what you want to wear, life goes on.

[deals gap dragon slayer]

there's no law about it... but what about the overall image of the sportbike community. if it starts off with the dealerships promoting irresponsible behavior and riding habits, what chance to safe responsible riders have in a society that already has us labeled as delinquents.

So you approve of a dealer selling a Busa or a liter sport bike to a first time rider who may or may not have his MC license? there's not a law against it... but common sense would urge against it.

I mean I'm sorry... but my insurance rates are high enough for the simple fact that I'm part of a so called statistic because of dipshits who probably should never be on bikes to begin with. But since no one is holding any sort of responsibility things just continue to fall in a downward spiral...

Do I think an MC license should be required to buy a bike... YES

Do I think dealerships who sell to unlicensed riders should be fined, etc...YES

Do I think that the US should use a tiered licensing system similar if not identical to many European countries... YES...


Is that being a Nazi? NO...

Its trying to create better, safer, more responsible riders.

[marko138]

Originally Posted by deals gap dragon slayer

there's no law about it... but what about the overall image of the sportbike community. if it starts off with the dealerships promoting irresponsible behavior and riding habits, what chance to safe responsible riders have in a society that already has us labeled as delinquents.

So you approve of a dealer selling a Busa or a liter sport bike to a first time rider who may or may not have his MC license? there's not a law against it... but common sense would urge against it.

I mean I'm sorry... but my insurance rates are high enough for the simple fact that I'm part of a so called statistic because of dipshits who probably should never be on bikes to begin with. But since no one is holding any sort of responsibility things just continue to fall in a downward spiral...

Do I think an MC license should be required to buy a bike... YES

Do I think dealerships who sell to unlicensed riders should be fined, etc...YES

Do I think that the US should use a tiered licensing system similar if not identical to many European countries... YES...


Is that being a Nazi? NO...

Its trying to create better, safer, more responsible riders.

I don't think dealers should sell newbs those bikes either, but they do...and often. If a kid walks in and wants a ninja 250 most dealers will try to sell him the zx14. Why? Because it's more money, more commission, more cash in his pocket.

But if a newb is dumb enough to buy it then fuck 'em.

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by deals gap dragon slayer

but what about the overall image of the sportbike community. .

Dragging knee through the dragon is HORRIBLE for our image.


I personally don't give two shits if you do it. Why would you care if I don't wear gear?

What it boils down to is YOU pushing your beliefs on somebody else. I don't agree with it. And you'll never change my mind. I always believe in choice.

Your image is unimportant to me. I don't care if my actions effect you anymore than your actions effect me.

And don't even pretend that everytime you're doing three times the speed limit nobody is around to see it and you're the only one you can hurt...

Quit being a hypocrite Actually, don't quit being a hypocrite. Just stop trying to tell people what they should or shouldn't do.. It's ultimately none of your business.

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by deals gap dragon slayer

there's no law about it... but what about the overall image of the sportbike community. if it starts off with the dealerships promoting irresponsible behavior and riding habits, what chance to safe responsible riders have in a society that already has us labeled as delinquents.

So you approve of a dealer selling a Busa or a liter sport bike to a first time rider who may or may not have his MC license? there's not a law against it... but common sense would urge against it.

I mean I'm sorry... but my insurance rates are high enough for the simple fact that I'm part of a so called statistic because of dipshits who probably should never be on bikes to begin with. But since no one is holding any sort of responsibility things just continue to fall in a downward spiral...

Do I think an MC license should be required to buy a bike... YES

Do I think dealerships who sell to unlicensed riders should be fined, etc...YES

Do I think that the US should use a tiered licensing system similar if not identical to many European countries... YES...


Is that being a Nazi? NO...

Its trying to create better, safer, more responsible riders.

PS. Your body is over the double yellow in your av, and I doubt you're following the speed limit..

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by deals gap dragon slayer

there's no law about it... but what about the overall image of the sportbike community. if it starts off with the dealerships promoting irresponsible behavior and riding habits, what chance to safe responsible riders have in a society that already has us labeled as delinquents.

So you approve of a dealer selling a Busa or a liter sport bike to a first time rider who may or may not have his MC license? there's not a law against it... but common sense would urge against it.

I mean I'm sorry... but my insurance rates are high enough for the simple fact that I'm part of a so called statistic because of dipshits who probably should never be on bikes to begin with. But since no one is holding any sort of responsibility things just continue to fall in a downward spiral...

Do I think an MC license should be required to buy a bike... YES

Do I think dealerships who sell to unlicensed riders should be fined, etc...YES

Do I think that the US should use a tiered licensing system similar if not identical to many European countries... YES...


Is that being a Nazi? NO...

Its trying to create better, safer, more responsible riders.

Okay,now what the fuck does that have to do with the dealer running an ad showing a guy on a slow cruise not wearing gear? Do you really think that the average non-rider looked at that ad and said,"Oh my God look at that delinquent riding without proper gear!" Get the fuck out of here with that bull shit! I'd be with you somewhat if the ad had the guy cracking wheelies down the freeway.

Where in that dealer's ad does it say that he "pushes" larger displacement bikes on newbs? Where in that ad does it say that this dealer will sell bikes to guys without licenses? Who said ANY fucking thing about being against a "tiered licensing system"? All this guy did was take some video of a guy cruising along on a CBR and YOU have started a crusade! If you want to talk about "setting a bad example" how about the fucktards that run the gap at 2-5 times the posted speed limit? Dragging knees on public roads. What kind of public relations is that? You're obviously one of these people who seem to think that the laws YOU break are ok because you are special,you have the required skills and experience the rest of us "squids" lack. Or are you one of these guys who claim the they NEVER break the speed limit on the road? Whatever!