NC Dealer doesn't think gear is necessary

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Originally Posted by deals gap dragon slayer

well looks like i got through to him some... there's a small disclaimer under the pics now. its not a victory, but close

Congratulations! You've imposed your own brand of Nazism on another human being! Hurray!

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Congratulations! You've imposed your own brand of Nazism on another human being! Hurray!

Well said.

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Originally Posted by Tmall

Well said.

I don't know if you're serious on not but I really don't feel that Dealers or any kind of salesmen should be considered "role models" it's ridiculous. That would be like getting mad at a car dealer that shows people driving without seatbelts (in a state where that's legal of course). Oh my GOD,I saw a commercial the other day for a bicycle shop that showed people riding bikes WITHOUT helmets,elbow guards,knee guards etc! Something has to be done!!!! There was also an ad for Office Max where the clerk had pens in his pocket......without a POCKET PROTECTOR!!!! Oh the humanity!!!!!

[marko138]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

I don't know if you're serious on not but I really don't feel that Dealers or any kind of salesmen should be considered "role models" it's ridiculous. That would be like getting mad at a car dealer that shows people driving without seatbelts (in a state where that's legal of course). Oh my GOD,I saw a commercial the other day for a bicycle shop that showed people riding bikes WITHOUT helmets,elbow guards,knee guards etc! Something has to be done!!!! There was also an ad for Office Max where the clerk had pens in his pocket......without a POCKET PROTECTOR!!!! Oh the humanity!!!!!

You know....I'm sorta with you on this. There's no law that says you can't wear tshirt, shorts, and sandals. Is it smart...of course not...but who cares. We are all adults. We make our own decisions. If these numbskulls want to roll in that attire then it's their choice. I dont give a fuck what they wear.

I wear what I want to wear, you wear what you want to wear, life goes on.

[deals gap dragon slayer]

there's no law about it... but what about the overall image of the sportbike community. if it starts off with the dealerships promoting irresponsible behavior and riding habits, what chance to safe responsible riders have in a society that already has us labeled as delinquents.

So you approve of a dealer selling a Busa or a liter sport bike to a first time rider who may or may not have his MC license? there's not a law against it... but common sense would urge against it.

I mean I'm sorry... but my insurance rates are high enough for the simple fact that I'm part of a so called statistic because of dipshits who probably should never be on bikes to begin with. But since no one is holding any sort of responsibility things just continue to fall in a downward spiral...

Do I think an MC license should be required to buy a bike... YES

Do I think dealerships who sell to unlicensed riders should be fined, etc...YES

Do I think that the US should use a tiered licensing system similar if not identical to many European countries... YES...


Is that being a Nazi? NO...

Its trying to create better, safer, more responsible riders.

[marko138]

Originally Posted by deals gap dragon slayer

there's no law about it... but what about the overall image of the sportbike community. if it starts off with the dealerships promoting irresponsible behavior and riding habits, what chance to safe responsible riders have in a society that already has us labeled as delinquents.

So you approve of a dealer selling a Busa or a liter sport bike to a first time rider who may or may not have his MC license? there's not a law against it... but common sense would urge against it.

I mean I'm sorry... but my insurance rates are high enough for the simple fact that I'm part of a so called statistic because of dipshits who probably should never be on bikes to begin with. But since no one is holding any sort of responsibility things just continue to fall in a downward spiral...

Do I think an MC license should be required to buy a bike... YES

Do I think dealerships who sell to unlicensed riders should be fined, etc...YES

Do I think that the US should use a tiered licensing system similar if not identical to many European countries... YES...


Is that being a Nazi? NO...

Its trying to create better, safer, more responsible riders.

I don't think dealers should sell newbs those bikes either, but they do...and often. If a kid walks in and wants a ninja 250 most dealers will try to sell him the zx14. Why? Because it's more money, more commission, more cash in his pocket.

But if a newb is dumb enough to buy it then fuck 'em.

[deals gap dragon slayer]

Originally Posted by marko138

I don't think dealers should sell newbs those bikes either, but they do...and often. If a kid walks in and wants a ninja 250 most dealers will try to sell him the zx14. Why? Because it's more money, more commission, more cash in his pocket.

But if a newb is dumb enough to buy it then fuck 'em.

so why not encourage the dealers to try to have some sort of mentoring role towards new riders. A newb is a newb... hence the term... newb... they'll believe whatever the dealer tells them because they're the so called authority. if the dealer is feading the newbs bad info. it isn't the newbs fault..

Like Eric said... newbs don't know any better... atleast he's doing the right thing and trying to talk some sense into them

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by deals gap dragon slayer

but what about the overall image of the sportbike community. .

Dragging knee through the dragon is HORRIBLE for our image.


I personally don't give two shits if you do it. Why would you care if I don't wear gear?

What it boils down to is YOU pushing your beliefs on somebody else. I don't agree with it. And you'll never change my mind. I always believe in choice.

Your image is unimportant to me. I don't care if my actions effect you anymore than your actions effect me.

And don't even pretend that everytime you're doing three times the speed limit nobody is around to see it and you're the only one you can hurt...

Quit being a hypocrite Actually, don't quit being a hypocrite. Just stop trying to tell people what they should or shouldn't do.. It's ultimately none of your business.

[marko138]

Originally Posted by Tmall

Dragging knee through the dragon is HORRIBLE for our image.


I personally don't give two shits if you do it. Why would you care if I don't wear gear?

What it boils down to is YOU pushing your beliefs on somebody else. I don't agree with it. And you'll never change my mind. I always believe in choice.

Your image is unimportant to me. I don't care if my actions effect you anymore than your actions effect me.

And don't even pretend that everytime you're doing three times the speed limit nobody is around to see it and you're the only one you can hurt...

Quit being a hypocrite Actually, don't quit being a hypocrite. Just stop trying to tell people what they should or shouldn't do.. It's ultimately none of your business.

That pretty much sums it up. Specifically that I dont care what you do anymore than you care what I do.

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by deals gap dragon slayer

there's no law about it... but what about the overall image of the sportbike community. if it starts off with the dealerships promoting irresponsible behavior and riding habits, what chance to safe responsible riders have in a society that already has us labeled as delinquents.

So you approve of a dealer selling a Busa or a liter sport bike to a first time rider who may or may not have his MC license? there's not a law against it... but common sense would urge against it.

I mean I'm sorry... but my insurance rates are high enough for the simple fact that I'm part of a so called statistic because of dipshits who probably should never be on bikes to begin with. But since no one is holding any sort of responsibility things just continue to fall in a downward spiral...

Do I think an MC license should be required to buy a bike... YES

Do I think dealerships who sell to unlicensed riders should be fined, etc...YES

Do I think that the US should use a tiered licensing system similar if not identical to many European countries... YES...


Is that being a Nazi? NO...

Its trying to create better, safer, more responsible riders.

PS. Your body is over the double yellow in your av, and I doubt you're following the speed limit..