Will Kawi ever make a new 750?

Homeslice · 03-13-2009, 03:18 AM

Liter bikes have more reciprocating mass, which works against you when the revs are high. Also, not everyone wants liter-bike insurance.

Rider · 03-13-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

plus for some unimaginable reason suzy's 750s outweigh some liters. whats the point then?

The GSXR 750 only weighs 5lbs more than the 600 and considerably less than the 100. Not sure where you get your info from but it's wrong. The weight of my 750 as spec'd by Suzuki was 359 dry. I challenge you to find a liter bike with that low of a dry weight.

Kawi used to sell a 750 but they were no where near competitive with the GSXR's. I love the 750 power plant and if any of the manufacturers came out with a 800cc GP replica, I'd drool all over one. For me I don't need a liter bike. I rode a new GSXR1000 and it wasn't for me. The 750 has enough low end grunt and mid range to keep me happy. I dont need to go 180+mph. The 600's on the other hand don't have enough low end torque for how I like to ride. Now the new ZX-6R is supposed to have increased low end torque so that may solve my problem with that.

My logic was this, sure the 750 was $1000 more than a 600 but to get that extra 30hp I would have had to spend well over a grand to get that kind of extra power and the 750 is pretty damn close in weight to the 600, so it's just like buying a 600 with a factory engine upgrade. Sure I could have spent an additional $1000 to jump up the the liter bike but like mentioned above, they're not my style of bike. I'd be happy if all the manufacturers started producing 750s again, especially Yamaha, but I doubt it will ever happen.

marko138 · 03-13-2009, 08:54 AM

I'll always have a place in my heart for the 3/4 liter GSXR.

smileyman · 03-13-2009, 10:12 AM

Suzuki have kept the 750 in the lineup cause it is still cost efficient to produce. Used to they based the 600cc GSXR on the 750, sharing design and production budget. Now they base the 750 on the 600 but still have the same chassis and ancillary parts (wheels, bodywork, brakes, controls, frames).

The GSXR 750 also has a cult following in Europe where they sell strong. Personally I loved the ZX7 and the GSXR750. Even had a crush on the YZF750, although I never felt the R7.

My ZX6/636 has great torque and with my slightly larger rear sprocket feels very 750 ish. I just don't have to worry about flipping it over like I would a liter bike...

Homeslice · 03-13-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rider

The 600's on the other hand don't have enough low end torque for how I like to ride. Now the new ZX-6R is supposed to have increased low end torque so that may solve my problem with that.
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I really doubt it.

Another problem with 600's is that the rpm's are higher on the freeway, which gets old over long distances.

750 is the best of both worlds, they are better commuters than 600's, and better handlers than most 1000's.

Rider · 03-13-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

I really doubt it.

Another problem with 600's is that the rpm's are higher on the freeway, which gets old over long distances.

750 is the best of both worlds, they are better commuters than 600's, better handlers than most 1000's

Agreed that's why I chose the 750 for my last bike.

p00kienrayray · 03-13-2009, 04:38 PM

I can see suzuki doing away with the 750 eventually. the only reason why it survived to this day is because the gsxr 750 is widely popular. but it seems that 750cc is starting to be an oddball size. like stated earlier the liters are flagships, but the 600's are making their marks as middleweights and starter bikes.

Dave · 03-13-2009, 06:01 PM

zuks:

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_w...ts/index8.html

hondas:

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_w...ts/index8.html

by year its not quite what i was saying but damn is it close. early millenium appears to be the low point for bike weight

Cutty72 · 03-13-2009, 06:35 PM

02 954 = 04 GSXR750 wet weight according to that chart

Bikes are getting heavier as they have made them as light as they can without sacrificing strength and affordablity, and are having to put on more wieght with all the emissions shit.

p00kienrayray · 03-13-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cutty72

Bikes are getting heavier as they have made them as light as they can without sacrificing strength and affordablity, and are having to put on more wieght with all the emissions shit.

yea, the gsxr 1000 went from single to dual exhausts because of emissions.

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03-13-2009, 03:18 AM	#1
Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	Liter bikes have more reciprocating mass, which works against you when the revs are high. Also, not everyone wants liter-bike insurance.

03-13-2009, 04:38 PM	#7
p00kienrayray dope fiend Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SUNNY SOCAL Moto: JICKSIR SICKS HUNNERD Posts: 184	I can see suzuki doing away with the 750 eventually. the only reason why it survived to this day is because the gsxr 750 is widely popular. but it seems that 750cc is starting to be an oddball size. like stated earlier the liters are flagships, but the 600's are making their marks as middleweights and starter bikes.

03-13-2009, 06:01 PM	#8
Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	zuks: http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_w...ts/index8.html hondas: http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_w...ts/index8.html by year its not quite what i was saying but damn is it close. early millenium appears to be the low point for bike weight