Am I the only one? Old bikes vs new bikes

[marko138]

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

Im pretty sure I can take apart my entire bike with the tool kit under my rear seat...Bikes are still very simple to work on...Even the Fuel Infucted Ones.

Wrong.

[Sixxxxer]

Well it certainly isnt as complicated as all the new cars and trucks nowadays...If that was my basis on buying a new bike Then thats just fucking silly

[zed]

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

Well it certainly isnt as complicated as all the new cars and trucks nowadays...If that was my bass on buying a new bike Then thats just fucking silly

have you been under the fuel tank of your bike? it's not that easy.

[OTB]

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

If that was my basis on buying a new bike Then thats just fucking silly

Why? Why would I buy something that I have to spend 1000's of dollars on tools and diagnostics computers to work on? Why is that F***ing silly? With most of these newer bikes you need to be able to measure outputs from lambda sensors, O2 sensors, airflow sensors, throttle position sensors, god help you if you have a problem with ABS, Traction Control, fuel mapping.........

It all works great when it works.....it just sucks when it doesn't. I keep and ride the stuff that I can fix in my garage, or limp home after doing a roadside fix..in the rain....at night.......

[OTB]

I don't think it's because I'm a techno-fuddy duddy. I was writing code in Fortran (look it up), C and Basic before most of you were out of diapers; I designed, built and installed computer POS sytems for ten years...I build my own systems today. I don't WANT a bike I can't work on myself....I've got that with all the OTHER motor vehicles I have....

With my hobby of buying and selling bikes, I spend more than my share of garage time delving into the innards of the bikes.....and I admire what they enable the systems on a bike to accomplish. I just don't want one like that for myself........

[Dave]

Originally Posted by OTB

I don't think it's because I'm a techno-fuddy duddy. I was writing code in Fortran (look it up), C and Basic before most of you were out of diapers; I designed, built and installed computer POS sytems for ten years...I build my own systems today. I don't WANT a bike I can't work on myself....I've got that with all the OTHER motor vehicles I have....

With my hobby of buying and selling bikes, I spend more than my share of garage time delving into the innards of the bikes.....and I admire what they enable the systems on a bike to accomplish. I just don't want one like that for myself........

fortran? you ARE a fuddy duddy lol. bet you know cobol too eh?

[OTB]

Originally Posted by Dave

fortran? you ARE a fuddy duddy lol. bet you know cobol too eh?

Yep....and I'll bet you've never run code on a paper tape, either...........

[OTB]

Also, I'll bet you didn't know that when IBM started selling mainframe computers, they would sell them at or below cost.............

IBM made it's money selling the CARDS the code was punched on..............

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by OTB

Yep....and I'll bet you've never run code on a paper tape, either...........

Or did back ups on cassettes Tandy FTW! Computer programming classes circa 1979-1983.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by OTB

Yep....and I'll bet you've never run code on a paper tape, either...........

nope. but i used to rewrite programs from Ti-basic so i could play them on my 80808 ironically, my 80808 is long dead while my 99'er is still sorta running

my dad has many stories of the old days of being an engineer where they had to hand solder ram chips together for more memory