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Old 05-06-2009, 11:21 AM   #1
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I'm glad that they're competing, I just think they're in the wrong class. An 1125cc water-cooled twin has no business racing against 600cc fours.

Put it in Superbike where the competition will be closer to the same displacement and see how things go then. I think that will make the Buell a better bike, and it will definitely increase the respect it gets.

And while we're at it- if the racebike has a chain drive, the streetbike should too. At a minimum, chain drive should be an option.
It is...if you have a current race license. I have the Buell parts catalog at home.
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Old 05-06-2009, 11:35 AM   #2
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It is...if you have a current race license. I have the Buell parts catalog at home.
That's stupid, IMO. I can go out tomorrow and buy an R6, throw track plastics and sticky tires on it, and go racing. Yamaha won't ask me for a race license for anything they sell; why does Buell? Do they think that only qualified racers can handle chain drive?

Again, I'm not anti-Buell at all. I think they make cool streetbikes and have some really innovative ideas. I just don't think they should need nearly double the displacement of Japanese machinery to be competitive.
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Old 05-06-2009, 11:40 AM   #3
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That's stupid, IMO. I can go out tomorrow and buy an R6, throw track plastics and sticky tires on it, and go racing. Yamaha won't ask me for a race license for anything they sell; why does Buell? Do they think that only qualified racers can handle chain drive?

Again, I'm not anti-Buell at all. I think they make cool streetbikes and have some really innovative ideas. I just don't think they should need nearly double the displacement of Japanese machinery to be competitive.
You can easily get aftermarket chain set up for next to nothing.
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Old 05-06-2009, 01:07 PM   #4
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what the hell Leno got a Buell too. lucky bastige.













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Old 05-06-2009, 03:24 PM   #5
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That's stupid, IMO. I can go out tomorrow and buy an R6, throw track plastics and sticky tires on it, and go racing. Yamaha won't ask me for a race license for anything they sell; why does Buell? Do they think that only qualified racers can handle chain drive?

Again, I'm not anti-Buell at all. I think they make cool streetbikes and have some really innovative ideas. I just don't think they should need nearly double the displacement of Japanese machinery to be competitive.
But your 600 isn't going to lap anywhere near as fast as a factory 600 either.
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But your 600 isn't going to lap anywhere near as fast as a factory 600 either.
That's mostly because of the hack in the saddle.

Still, I would wager that the 600s are as close, or closer, to stock than the 1125R is. It really doesn't take much to turn a modern 600 into a Supersport race bike.

That still doesn't explain why the Buell needs such a huge displacement advantage.
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That still doesn't explain why the Buell needs such a huge displacement advantage.
I don't know that it does, it's just the only size that it's made in.

If Erik is right about what DMG was trying to do, the difference doesn't matter, the Buells will start getting weight added to them, didn't the same thing happen to Ducati in BSB?

Oh, if you think their bikes are breaking the rules, get a bike, and file a complaint, or get a buell and start winning?
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Old 05-06-2009, 04:24 PM   #8
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The Buell is classed to run in the 600cc Superstock AMA...and they are winning. I think some of you are just fucking jealous.

And Eslick is running damn good races.
Jealous? More like fed up with them being granted pardons to run their bike in the wrong class.

If Buell built a solid race bike and won races with it in the proper class, I would certainly be excited to see them do it and give them props.

They haven't.

If suzuki started bringing built literbikes to 600 Superstock races and was winning, would you listen when people started touting about the bike and the brand and how great they are? Or would you laugh? I'm laughing at Buell.
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I don't, however, think an 1125cc bike should be racing in the 600cc class, ever. It's not like in the old days with the XB where Buell could claim that they were handicapped by being air-cooled; the 1125R is definitely a liquid-cooled gigantic twin, and should have no excuse for not being competitive with literbikes from the big 4.

Erik, stop making excuses. Run the 1125 in Superbike or get out.
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I'm glad that they're competing, I just think they're in the wrong class. An 1125cc water-cooled twin has no business racing against 600cc fours.

Put it in Superbike where the competition will be closer to the same displacement and see how things go then. I think that will make the Buell a better bike, and it will definitely increase the respect it gets.
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Now back on topic...yeah I find it funny that alot of Buell fans are bragging about beating a 600. Run against the litre bikes and see how it goes. Funny Ducati can do it.

As I've already mentioned...I like Buells...just not some of the dick headed owners.
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That still doesn't explain why the Buell needs such a huge displacement advantage.
Exactly.
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