If you have not crashed: What does it mean???

[the chi]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Hmmm... I still think it's a "sport bike" rider mindset and not a "motorcycle rider" mindset. I grew up around Harley people and I doubt that that 3/4 of them ever crashed in decades of riding. In fact, I'd say that their chances of crashing their bikes were considerably less than their getting into a car accident. Oh and the "fall over" crash... well, I've never just dropped a bike in my life. I'm sorry but you have to be either stupid, weak or riding a bike that's WAY too tall for you. Besides, how can dropping your bike count as a "crash", come on! I once had to repair a hanger door where the guy was pushing his Cesna back and smacked the track... I guess you'd say he was involved in a PLANE CRASH!!! This is what I mean by looking for ways to make the "everyone crashes" POV make sense. Hey I once dropped a wrench and scratched my tank, does that count as a crash?

It does depend on your mindset. I didnt say that I think falling over is a crash, tho some people do count it.

FYI-the first person to ever tell me of the 2 types of rider rule was a harley/cruiser rider, who had been riding for 30+ years and never crashed. He still beleived it would happen, and I've seen first hand that it does.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by The Chi

It does depend on your mindset. I didnt say that I think falling over is a crash, tho some people do count it.

FYI-the first person to ever tell me of the 2 types of rider rule was a harley/cruiser rider, who had been riding for 30+ years and never crashed. He still beleived it would happen, and I've seen first hand that it does.

I know that motorcycle accidents "exist" and that anyone CAN have an accident, you are saying that everyone that rides WILL have an accident. I know better... Besides, the only absolute statement I will ever believe in is that "everybody dies", beyond that all bets are off.

[skiergirl]

I have ridden sport bikes for 18 years now and have never 'crashed' I have dropped my bike stopped when I put my foot in gravel/oil whatever, I have dropped it loading it on the trailer, pushing it etc. I do not consider that a crash. I feel a crash is something over 5-10 mph.

I'd like to think it's a combination of many things that account for this fact.
1. 18 years of experience in handling a bike
2. I do not 'push it' to the limit like some people even at that track. I do push and I'm fast enough but I'm not out trying to beat my best time every lap riding to the limit.
3. I do not commute and my street riding is more hill country and as far away from others as I can get so the risk of crashing of mainly on me to control my bike.

I will do everything in my power to NOT crash however I do ride with all gear because I know it can happen and I'm prepared for it when/if it does.

Will I ever crash? probably but then again, maybe not...

[Trip]

Originally Posted by skiergirl

I have dropped my bike stopped when I put my foot in gravel/oil whatever, I have dropped it loading it on the trailer, pushing it etc. I do not consider that a crash. I feel a crash is something over 5-10 mph.

That's like backing a car into a pole. I consider a drop a crash. You had control of the bike and lost control of it, hence a crash.

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by Trip

That's like backing a car into a pole. I consider a drop a crash. You had control of the bike and lost control of it, hence a crash.

exactly...


now if the bike was blown off the stand by the wind... not your fault...


but if you were in control... lost it... IMO it's a crash

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Trip

That's like backing a car into a pole. I consider a drop a crash. You had control of the bike and lost control of it, hence a crash.

Loading onto a trailer isn't crash though right? Also, if you're getting out of the car a bang the door into a pole, is that a crash? Just kidding, you're saying that if you are operating the vehicle and it hits something, including the ground, you have been involved in a crash. Okay, I can see that.

For the record, my insurance company does not consider that a "collision" but files it under comprehensive, so it's a good thing that you don't run my insurance company if I ever were to drop my bike.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Loading onto a trailer isn't crash though right? Also, if you're getting out of the car a bang the door into a pole, is that a crash? Just kidding, you're saying that if you are operating the vehicle and it hits something, including the ground, you have been involved in a crash. Okay, I can see that.

For the record, my insurance company does not consider that a "collision" but files it under comprehensive, so it's a good thing that you don't run my insurance company if I ever were to drop my bike.

depends on how you are loading it. If you are riding it on and go down, that's a crash. If it gets dropped while you are strapping it down or pushing it, that's different. As with the car door banging on the pole. If you are riding it and come to a stop and lose balance, that's definitely a crash which is the one I am talking about, not so much the trailer incident.

[Homeslice]

I would say that if someone has ridden for, say, 10,000 miles without crashing or at least tipping over, then they probably ride too conservatively for my tastes.

[Amorok]

I haven't crashed yet, but some of you know I ride like an old man. It's through caution and luck that I've stayed up so far.

[pauldun170]