Well....It happened

[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

A parked car in the road is a parked car in the road. Ed hit the truck , its his fault. It doesn't matter how fast he was going and its not like the truck pulled out in front and the cop prolly wouldn't give any tickets because he didn't see anything.

Try telling that to Andrew Trevitt.......

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Porkchop

Try telling that to Andrew Trevitt.......

Nobody is saying anything about speed, conditions etc. It was an accident and shit happens. But what gets me is to blame the truck driver for something he has absolutely no control over just because he is moving perpendicular to the road instead of being parked.

Originally Posted by eBBs15

sorry but the truck is at fault. you can't block a road and expect that anything that hit's you is at fault. especially on a blind crest....

What if a cop was blocking it? Cops fault?

[JoJoYZF]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

What if a cop was blocking it? Cops fault?

Yea, going by ebbs' reasoning (which I agree with) what difference does it make if its a cop? No flagger, no warning, blocking road after a blind hill, the cops at fault.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by JoJoYZF

Yea, going by ebbs' reasoning (which I agree with) what difference does it make if its a cop? No flagger, no warning, blocking road after a blind hill, the cops at fault.

What if some car hit a deer and the traffic backed up 10 cars and was stopped and you rear ended the last car...Is it the last cars fault?

Your in control of your vehicle. When entering a hill you have to slow down enough to stop for a potential vehicle stopped on the other side. Pure and simple. I'm not saying this accident could be avoided as that is not the arguement at all, but you don't get a free pass to just hit whatever the hell you want when that vehicle in the roadway did not enter into your path and claim its not your fault. It's passing the blame.

[JoJoYZF]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

What if some car hit a deer and the traffic backed up 10 cars and was stopped and you rear ended the last car...Is it the last cars fault?

Your in control of your vehicle. When entering a hill you have to slow down enough to stop for a potential vehicle stopped on the other side. Pure and simple. I'm not saysing it will be avoided, but you don't get a free pass to just hit whatever the hell you want.

And no one said you do. Youre just taking this as literal as possible now. All Im saying is that if youre following the speed limits suggested for that road and you still cant avoid the accident because someone else is doing something stupid (ie crossing double yellow, blocking road, etc) then its not your fault.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by JoJoYZF

And no one said you do. Youre just taking this as literal as possible now. All Im saying is that if youre following the speed limits suggested for that road and you still cant avoid the accident because someone else is doing something stupid (ie crossing double yellow, blocking road, etc) then its not your fault.

Yeah...but you guys are saying its the truck drivers fault. I'm saying its not.

[Mr Lefty]

ok... what if the truck was pulling out of the drive way? he's impeeding traffic... and caused an accident...


yes... if the cop was stopped... he would be at fault. I don't know about MI... but in oregon... if you are broke down on the road... YOU MUST move the vehicle completely off the road... if you cannot get the vehcle completely off the road... YOU MUST PLACE FLAIRS AND/OR REFLECTIVE MARKERS 50 Yards before to warn drivers. and before you start picking this apart... the law actually says vehicles IMPEEDING TRAFFIC... ie broken down, blocking the road, or slow moving vehciles (they can get away with flashers as they have to be visible from >50yards)

so really it depends on the states...

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Yeah...but you guys are saying its the truck drivers fault. I'm saying its not.

he's backing up on a public road with out a warning to traffic... how is it not?

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by eBBs15

ok... what if the truck was pulling out of the drive way? he's impeeding traffic... and caused an accident...


yes... if the cop was stopped... he would be at fault. I don't know about MI... but in oregon... if you are broke down on the road... YOU MUST move the vehicle completely off the road... if you cannot get the vehcle completely off the road... YOU MUST PLACE FLAIRS AND/OR REFLECTIVE MARKERS 50 Yards before to warn drivers. and before you start picking this apart... the law actually says vehicles IMPEEDING TRAFFIC... ie broken down, blocking the road, or slow moving vehciles (they can get away with flashers as they have to be visible from >50yards)

so really it depends on the states...



he's backing up on a public road with out a warning to traffic... how is it not?

Did you overlook the deer example purposely? The truck was backing up...he was already well covering both lanes for a good amount of time..he didn't just pull out in front all of the sudden.

You seem to think you have a right to do the speed limit with nothing in front stopping you. Wrong. You need to yield to the vehicle in front.